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josiah33
#81 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 4:39:33 PM
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TAZ wrote:
B.Timer wrote:

The potency of Tribalism in Political matters has reached absurd levels!

What with people refusing to see that which is in plain sight!

A case of Martyrdom for the idols!


IMO i think that as long as OAR is still the top contender in the elections, Jubilee supporters will stick with the "suspects" that's the bottom-line.....the rest ni kelele tupu. I think anyone who disputes that is somehow in denial. As for PK supporters well all i can say is that i'm sure he'll make a good President one day just not this time.

Very true.... if Rao was not contesting even the jubilee diehards would be easily persuaded that a Government led by the two 'suspects' is not a good idea.
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Much Know
#82 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 4:40:47 PM
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This could turn out to be a major embarrassment for Obama given his closeness to Kenya if it lands in the hands of the right politicians, i believe if Carson made those statements out of his own convictions we will soon know, it is not a small matter!
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McReggae
#83 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 4:44:41 PM
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Ye men of bony chests......continue the thumping.


......as I said earlier guys mrelax and enjoy the Friday, your brains will burst jamaneni.
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alma
#84 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 4:54:30 PM
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@Much Know I humbly request to explain to you American politics.

It is not only Kenyans who claim sovereignty. It is not only Kenyans who have an opposition.

After the Hague bound accused, using suspects is being nice, are elected, and the US gov't offers any sort of aid to Kenya, this is what will happen.

The republicans and especially the fox news networks will start running campaigns about how Obama supports mass murderers etc.

They will say that he supports his muslim brethren in Mungiki. After all the Dick fellow is an expert at forming crazy links with anything. Remember him from the ODM campaign? He's now anti Obama and trying to find relevancy after loosing the last campaign so horribly.

So yes we are sovereign and so is the US.

Now, can I get Mutahi Ngunyis job as he's been misleading Kenyans for far too long.

There will be no bill that passes that congress that supports people in the Hague. Not because of Obama, but because of political expediency.

If Obama or Carson had said something like you wanted to hear, like, "we shall support Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto even if they are accused of being as bad as Hitler", the republicans who you love so much would have revolted.

So get used to international politics 101. Uhuru is bad for Kenya. PERIOD!
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xyzee
#85 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 5:02:37 PM
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TAZ wrote:
xyzee wrote:
These Jubilants amaze me they are actually voting against RAO and not voting for UK/WR.

Why not pick any of the other safer choices vote for him/her, PK for example if you can't stand RAO?


If you admit PK is a "safer choice" why don't you vote for him instead of OAR.....

@ Loles....I don't think the Courts will stop Uhuruto with three weeks to go before elections. I also don't think ati at this point their supporters are even thinking about voting for anyone else especially not MaDVDi. IMO if the courts stop the two from running then itakuwa shida tupu.....their supporters might even decide to boycott the elections.



@Taz
safer for them.

UK/WR is like a bus whose brakes have failed, going down a hill while the passengers are cheering the driver.

If one of the passengers was your brother what would you do?
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Impunity
#86 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 5:05:03 PM
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xyzee wrote:
TAZ wrote:
xyzee wrote:
These Jubilants amaze me they are actually voting against RAO and not voting for UK/WR.

Why not pick any of the other safer choices vote for him/her, PK for example if you can't stand RAO?


If you admit PK is a "safer choice" why don't you vote for him instead of OAR.....

@ Loles....I don't think the Courts will stop Uhuruto with three weeks to go before elections. I also don't think ati at this point their supporters are even thinking about voting for anyone else especially not MaDVDi. IMO if the courts stop the two from running then itakuwa shida tupu.....their supporters might even decide to boycott the elections.



@Taz
safer for them.

UK/WR is like a bus whose brakes have failed, going down a hill while the passengers are cheering the driver.


Na UK na kama bus gani?

I know ya Raila ni ile haina reverse gear.
Ya MADVD sijui haina side mirror.
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Much Know
#87 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 5:12:20 PM
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alma wrote:

The republicans and especially the fox news networks will start running campaigns about how Obama supports mass murderers etc.

But the republicans will ignore when Kenyans are bullied and intimidated by the USA govt whilst carrying out their democratic process? Obamas message was very well thought out, neutral and beyond reproach, why did this guy feel he needs to restate what Obama said? These are some of the questions.

"One wonders why President Obama needs rephrasing or explanation. President Obama's message was clear," Buku said referencing Tuesday's video message. "On March 4 the people of Kenya will go to the polls to make their choice, Johnnie Carson not withstanding, unless of course Johnnie Carson is campaigning for someone. "
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quicksand
#88 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 5:31:30 PM
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Much Know wrote:
alma wrote:

The republicans and especially the fox news networks will start running campaigns about how Obama supports mass murderers etc.

But the republicans will ignore when Kenyans are bullied and intimidated by the USA govt whilst carrying out their democratic process? Obamas message was very well thought out, neutral and beyond reproach, why did this guy feel he needs to restate what Obama said? These are some of the questions.

"One wonders why President Obama needs rephrasing or explanation. President Obama's message was clear," Buku said referencing Tuesday's video message. "On March 4 the people of Kenya will go to the polls to make their choice, Johnnie Carson not withstanding, unless of course Johnnie Carson is campaigning for someone. "


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You are tenacious, I will give you that.
Now, for argument's sake, lets say that the Republicans, if they could be bothered do not ignore this bullying that you have mentioned, tell us, what do you think they will do?
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kingfisher
#89 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 5:43:01 PM
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alma wrote:
This thread should be made mandatory reading in all psychology colleges in the world.

I believe we now need to bring in Dr. Njenga to help some people out.


And he should surely start with you.
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Lolest!
#90 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 5:43:41 PM
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xyzee wrote:


UK/WR is like a bus whose brakes have failed, going down a hill while the passengers are cheering the driver.

If one of the passengers was your brother what would you do?

Sad Sad

Me thinks we are all in this mbuss. Some want the driver who might be arrested at the next stop while others don't want this driver.

Akishikwa, passenger wote chini you wait for another mbuss to come from Nai na mko Kericho.
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