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B.Timer
#21 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:59:48 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:


What is everybody dancing on about, "will not necessarily" will become full sanctions the minute UHURUTO government interprets the constitution to mean a sitting president cannot be prosecuted while in office and gives ICC the middle finger.

And the statement by the envoy is text book envoy speak, "we will be impartial......"

I hope you didn't expect him to publicly declare his support for a specific candidate


Ukweli mtupu

Lets not sweep certain issues under the Carpet in order to propagate misrepresentation of issues.

The matter of possible sanctions is real and very probable.

The key ingredient for this eventuality is the failure of the Indictees to attend Court as expected by ICC, then Kenya fails to hand them over – which wouldn’t happen if they were the President and his Deputy.

This other stories are mere burying of heads in the sand.

The envoy did not address that, and I am sure if the question was put to him directly that way, he would either deflect it, or tell the truth - that, Kenya would suffer enormously.

Further decisions of this magnitude are reached back home and/or at the UN security council level and the envoys duty is to carry out such decisions as they may touch on his operations.


Dunia ni msongamano..
alma
#22 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:04:45 PM
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@Mawinder I wasn't talking about you in particular, but since you offered yourself up as the sacrificial lamb, endelea tu.

By the way since you seem to have helped write that silly laptop idea in the manifesto. Can you explain how you are going to pay for it, implement it? I seriously would be very glad to know. Or was it just part of the usual double speak that comes from TNA fellows.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Jaina
#23 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:32:39 PM
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And Raila's Cousin has spoken.

USA will respect the will of the people of Kenya.

http://elections.nation....8/-/f5upwi/-/index.html
mawinder
#24 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:37:25 PM
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alma wrote:
@Mawinder I wasn't talking about you in particular, but since you offered yourself up as the sacrificial lamb, endelea tu.

By the way since you seem to have helped write that silly laptop idea in the manifesto. Can you explain how you are going to pay for it, implement it? I seriously would be very glad to know. Or was it just part of the usual double speak that comes from TNA fellows.

My reply came before yours or which one are you referring to?I dont understand what you are referring to but will always stand by Jubilee.
mawinder
#25 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:41:09 PM
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Jaina wrote:
And Raila's Cousin has spoken.

USA will respect the will of the people of Kenya.

http://elections.nation....8/-/f5upwi/-/index.html

Losers advised to go to Courts not streets!!!
Much Know
#26 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:43:43 PM
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Jaina wrote:
And Raila's Cousin has spoken.

USA will respect the will of the people of Kenya.

http://elections.nation....8/-/f5upwi/-/index.html

Applause Just fantastic, jubilee and the press needs to heavily publicise this statements! The world does not need another Mugabe. Little wonder all these statements are coming out today after the national land alliance raised the alarm!
Ras Kienyeji Man
B.Timer
#27 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:53:38 PM
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Much Know wrote:
Jaina wrote:
And Raila's Cousin has spoken.

USA will respect the will of the people of Kenya.

http://elections.nation....8/-/f5upwi/-/index.html

Applause Just fantastic, jubilee and the press needs to heavily publicise this statements! The world does not need another Mugabe. Little wonder all these statements are coming out today after the national land alliance raised the alarm!


The matter coming up for hearing on Feb 07th is an election related issue too.

Should the Court rule that Uhuruto can not run, then Jubilee should implode quietly!
Dunia ni msongamano..
mkeiyd
#28 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:03:02 PM
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Much Know wrote:

Just fantastic, jubilee and the press needs to heavily publicise this statements! The world does not need another Mugabe. Little wonder all these statements are coming out today after the national land alliance raised the alarm!


@Much Know, Please take a minute and think.
Because diplomats leave all avenues open lest their committal pronouncements comes back to bite them. They are DIPLOMATS and they don't use plain language,it's all DIPLOMATIC SPEAK.


To the matter exciting most of the Jubilee leaning wazuans, the world WILL respect the will of the KENYAN people. It will.

What the world WON'T respect is the will of the duo choosing not to attend hearings citing immunity granted by our constitution. That is NOT the will of Kenyans.That's when the chicken will come home and sanctions will follow,gradually.

So those who are jumping up n down,it is the deeds of UK n WSR that will send Kenya the Zimbabwe way through non-cooperation as sitting deputy and president.
Take that to any bank of your choice.

PK mpaka kwa debe.
Shotgun
#29 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:05:41 PM
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Someone please educate me:

Supposing in a free and fair and democratic elections the citizens of Kenya elect UhuRuto who in turn promise to fully cooperate with the ICC process and then apply to the same court for flexible schedules to attend court due to their new roles.

Will we still be subject to sanctions?
If yes,
Who exactly will be issuing those sanctions?
For what reasons will they be issuing the sanctions?
mawinder
#30 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:11:12 PM
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Shotgun wrote:
Someone please educate me:

Supposing in a free and fair and democratic elections the citizens of Kenya elect UhuRuto who in turn promise to fully cooperate with the ICC process and then apply to the same court for flexible schedules to attend court due to their new roles.

Will we still be subject to sanctions?
If yes,
Who exactly will be issuing those sanctions?
For what reasons will they be issuing the sanctions?

Do not expect an answer from the cOARDashians!!!
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