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mungiki- how many must die
richsure
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:26:00 AM
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how many will die before our 'leaders' realise that as Koigi said,the country is slowly dying

Why do we pay taxes if justice system cannot work,security is a nightmare,a few people have too much and are getting richer while too many people have lost hope

Though we ought to be positive about life,sometimes its just hard to ignore what we see happening that is so sickening

When 'leaders' become extortionists on top of feeding on our taxes

for surely the money collected by illegal gangs must be lining some people's pockets

Better days are ahead
aemathenge
#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 6:56:00 AM
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In Kirinyaga,we are giving them as much as they give us. We have refused to pay them and we are killing their agents and burning their houses/property. Organize your people in your area and fight back. The government has other fish to fry. Fight back.!

Live hard,die hard.
eli
#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:06:00 AM
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Do the leaders really care? I dont think so!

But you shall remember the LORD your God,for it is He who is giving you power to make wealth,that He may confirm His covenant which He swore to your fathers,as it is this day. Deu 8:18
aemathenge
#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:13:00 AM
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I really get very angry when someone mentions 'our leaders'. This is about YOU and Me. Period. Keep the leaders out of this. They have other important things to do than worry about petty things like their wards being harassed by mungiki,IDPs,hunger,floods,crime et al. I repeat again organize from the grassroots and fight back and let them find you doing something instead of waiting for them to lead us in doing something.

Live hard,die hard.
Tusker Baridi
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:17:00 AM
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Killing Mungiki foot soldiers is a war in futility,what you guys need to do is go after the real Mungiki patrons( Uhuru,Karume,and most Kikuyu MPs). Instead,these leaders that you adore so much have convinced you(for their own selfish interests) that they're protecking nyoba from outside aggression. Wake up people,you know who funds,protects and controls Mungiki,instead of hailing akina Uhuru aka grab-all-Central-land-and-deport-mau-mau-descendants-to-hostile-Kaleo-land,maybe you should demand that his family returns all stolen land to settle these restive Mau Mau descendants.

As long as Agenda 4 is not addressed,Mungiki will remain a menace in Central. And we know that Uhuru is sure not in a hurry to give up his family's ill gotten land,that's why he funds the Mungikis to keep them from coming after him. And now I hear Centralians are falling over each other to declare Uhuru as their next president ial candidate,salaa la!!
Mr.Tea
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:20:00 AM
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@aemathenge,
I'd be very careful the way I go taming this rogue gang.They might just pay you with your own coin. I don't think I particularly have the remedy but a solution will probably come through concerted effort of the community,security agents and generally the government. Be careful.

Patience Pays in Guaranteed Checks
Patience Pays In Guaranteed Checks.
Mainat
#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:39:00 AM
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AEMathenge-way to go. I hear they are also getting squeezed and slashed from the Karatina side. Let them go back to Murang'a where the raia are happy to co-exist with the parasites.

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FundamentAli
#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:46:00 AM
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Am reading the Nation online with the heading '25 Killed in Kenya Violence'. Nation are copy cats. That is the heading I would expect on BBC and CNN not a local daily. What kind of editors do they have?

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PONDI
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:01:00 AM
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when your tooth aches what do you do? first option would be going to the dentist but if the dentist cannot fix the damn tooth then you have no choice but to FORCEFULLY and PAINFULLY remove it. watu wa kirinyaga,hongera kwenyu. dentist alishindwa na kazi

He who laughs last thinks slowest..
Kwanini
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:03:00 AM
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Kenya ina wenyewe. That is so true today. Everyone else is collateral damage.

@ sk admin- why nor merge all the duplicate threads?

For i am the master and the captain of my fate !
"For i am the master and the captain of my fate"
murenj
#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:05:00 AM
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I just love these Kirinyaga Guys.they are the only good Kiuks. the rest...

The cunning of the Buffalo
Tusker Baridi
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:08:00 AM
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@Mainat and AEMathenge

Your elitist naivette is simply amazing. Mungiki is just not another gang but is a prelude to a vicious class warface that will soon engulf Central if Agenda 4 is not addressed. How so? well,a little historical perspective:

Mau Mau originated and thrived in Central since they were the most aggrieved as a result of the colonialists stealing their land and kicking them into concentration camps. Forward to present,exit colonialists,enter neo-colonialists aka Kenyatta,Michuki,Kifaki. These neo-colonialists grabbed so much land in Central and have refused to give it up. Meanwhile,mau mau descendants are again living in squalid IDP camps. tell me if that is not a ticking timing bomb?

I bet you those idle IDP youths are easy recruits for Mungikis,. Why would they suffer while their supposed kinfolks are enjoying the fruits of power that the IDPs paid for with their blood,land and properties?
Mainat
#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:18:00 AM
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TB-As I may have suggested before,please concentrate on topics you know something or better yet,go underground for a few months and educate yourself about some of these issues.

Mungiki has not originated from mau mau descedants but mainly from idle and unemployed youth financed and encouraged in some cases by Mpigs,but now led by rent-seekers. Idle and unemployed youth are not a phenomena just in Central so there is is no excuse for Mungiki.

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Sehemu ndio nyumba
simonkabz
#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:46:00 AM
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Tb,who told u only central has idle/unemployed youth? Even the RV,western,nyanza,coast have,albeit in larger mumbers. Y cant these mungiks work like the rest of kenyan youth? Let them die. One of them tried to xplain 2me how work is for fools.....all I can remember are blows all over his stupid face....let them harvest

Truest proverb: Mwenda pole hajikwai
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
kanda
#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:47:00 AM
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@mainaT

there is no need for u to be so hard on TB. it seems we are all not happy with the goings on in Kirinyaga (kenya). we only disagree on the solutions.

TB may have used the wrong thread,but his points are valid all the same. i guess by descendants,he didint mean blood relatives. i mean,any discerning kenyan is aware of the disparities in economic status in kenya. granted,it is not resticted to central. there is alot of idle land that was acquired illegally by a few greedy politicians who we need not name. this land should be taken back by govt and given to the landless. kwani kazi inafaa kuendelea wapi kama watu hawana mashamba???!!
Njunge
#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:05:00 AM
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@TB,

Much of the land grabbed by the neo-colonists you have named is in Laikipia,Nakuru,Molo,Koibatek and Coast province.......To my best of knowledge,this areas are not in CP.......or are they?


Guka wa bijuti...
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Iganamagana
#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:18:00 AM
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@Mainat.

Who told you Muranga people are happy to coexist with Mungiki? I thought what we have here is a problem most of us recognize and few have a solution.

Anyone who thinks that this is a Central province problem is dead wrong. If the problem of youth unemployment and hopelessness is not taken care of within the next few years,we will have a complete breakdown of law and order countrywide. No one will be safe.


IGANA.
Mainat
#18 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:21:00 AM
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Kanda-at the risk of repeating myself. I come from those sides. These idi-iots have been bothering my cousin for months asking him to pay protection money even though he has never been burgled (his business is almost next door to the local kala-shop). Some of them are known local youth drop outs from 8-4-4=0; others whose fathers own big chunks of land in the area. Others are outsiders who have come to recruit.

So can you tell me who are the mau mau descedants or landless squatters you lot are talking about?

PS-my cousin is a mau mau descedant.



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Sehemu ndio nyumba
Burning Spear
#19 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:23:00 AM
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@Tusker baridi,

You sound a mouth piece of a lakeside political party (with no apologies whatsoever).

Stop commenting on things you dont know.
We can even tell by how you spell the word nyoba instead of nyumba.

Do you even understand mau mau......I am a descendant of the same,does this mean am a mungiki.
This is a gang of criminals and not mau mau.

Disclaimer : This is my opinion and not a recommendation to do as I advice.
"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
pesa
#20 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:32:00 AM
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whatever happened in karatina last night is very sad,but whats even unfortunate is when some people in this forum say mungiki is about 'you and me' .the mungiki problem to be honest has nothing to do with land what is happening is that a community that has engrained vices like stealing,lying,murder in its way of life and confusing these actions with being industrious .

well like they say 'the chicken have come home to roost' these vices have come back with a bang to consume the same people who worshiped them.

have you noticed no mp from central ever bothers to comment on mungiki killings,honestly what kind of people are you guys.

a society headed by thieves can never get anywhere,so if uhuru is the patron of mungiki and you guys love him to death maybe your deathwish has been granted. having proper values is the way to go .in ethiopia they have crazy unemployment rate but nobody uses that as an excuse to steal or extort or even kill like mungiki.


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