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What exactly happens in our security forces
Obi 1 Kanobi
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:32:38 PM
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Listening to Waiganjo's interview and his insistence to meet with the PM and VP to disclose some heavy secrets, one starts to wonder what exactly goes on in our police force and other security organs.
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Njung'e
#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:38:33 PM
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Populist politics.There was a time he met MN while the thug was in NMP.....How much did we hear after that?
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:01:36 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Populist politics.There was a time he met MN while the thug was in NMP.....How much did we hear after that?

You mean Waiganjo met MN? Yaani He is also into politics? When? Where? How?

This thread is not about OAR... PLEASE! !!
maka
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:32:48 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Listening to Waiganjo's interview and his insistence to meet with the PM and VP to disclose some heavy secrets, one starts to wonder what exactly goes on in our police force and other security organs.

our security apparatus i just full of crap,you can get away with anything if you have the right amount of money...btw I wouldnt be surprised leo when the report is released and Iteere is cleared of any wrong doing,nkt
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McReggae
#5 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:52:43 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Populist politics.There was a time he met MN while the thug was in NMP.....How much did we hear after that?


@guka, I thought this was your friend who supposed to finya ninio yangu!!!
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#6 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:03:54 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Populist politics.There was a time he met MN while the thug was in NMP.....How much did we hear after that?


@ Njung'e focus!!! its about the security apparatus and not RAO
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keraka
#7 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:19:47 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Populist politics.There was a time he met MN while the thug was in NMP.....How much did we hear after that?


@ Njung'e focus!!! its about the security apparatus and not RAO

Talk of diverting attention or being paranoid.
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Intelligentsia
#8 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:36:10 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Listening to Waiganjo's interview and his insistence to meet with the PM and VP to disclose some heavy secrets, one starts to wonder what exactly goes on in our police force and other security organs.


Have we invested in good quality internal security as a country? No. Not when police rides lack fuel (an OCPD is given 27 ltrs per day), when our cops lack medical insurance for injuries and deaths sustained in the line of duty. Are the families of those > 42 cops massacred in Baragoi still in their houses or they have already been chased out? The latter, most likely. Plus some ammunition imported from Iran from 2003 is now in the hands of pastoralists...So one wonders about basic controls, processes and procedures for all aspects of our internal security.

Its simple: invest in good quality security, you get good quality security.
The current quality of policing reflects the quality of investment, or lack of,that we have made as a country.


Obi 1 Kanobi
#9 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:57:46 AM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Listening to Waiganjo's interview and his insistence to meet with the PM and VP to disclose some heavy secrets, one starts to wonder what exactly goes on in our police force and other security organs.


Have we invested in good quality internal security as a country? No. Not when police rides lack fuel (an OCPD is given 27 ltrs per day), when our cops lack medical insurance for injuries and deaths sustained in the line of duty. Are the families of those > 42 cops massacred in Baragoi still in their houses or they have already been chased out? The latter, most likely. Plus some ammunition imported from Iran from 2003 is now in the hands of pastoralists...So one wonders about basic controls, processes and procedures for all aspects of our internal security.

Its simple: invest in good quality security, you get good quality security.
The current quality of policing reflects the quality of investment, or lack of,that we have made as a country.




All these points you raised above are important, but what I am alluding to is that it seems the heads of our security apparatus (who by the way are well compensated and steal more to afford comfortable lives) seem to be engaging in alot of criminal activities.

Its obvious that Waiganjo was a member of some kind of black ops arm of the police that was run parrallel to the official police force.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
McReggae
#10 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:07:22 AM
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The cartels in the police force are not the suffering no house no insurance calibre....
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