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tycho
#121 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:17:10 PM
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Life is always about self replication. Look at the cell, the organism, the ecosystem.

High power concentration, is a relative term. In this case Eve says, 'How wonderful it is to be wise'.
ChessMaster
#122 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:21:31 PM
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Is replication a process of life or its objective?
About Eve,was that the line she used on herself so she can eat the fruit or was it true. I ask because I wonder,what wisdom did she gain from eating it and did Adam get it too
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#123 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:44:47 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Is replication a process of life or its objective?
About Eve,was that the line she used on herself so she can eat the fruit or was it true. I ask because I wonder,what wisdom did she gain from eating it and did Adam get it too


The motif in life is not of exclusivity, but conjunctions. Like Hegelian dialectics. Or Solomon's 'time' for everything.

Observation is also a time function. So self replication is both a process and objective, it only depends on observation times.

'You shall be like God'. This was the devil's argument, which, was a truth.

Eve's statement was an acknowledgement of the statement.

God later acknowledges, 'Man has become like us'.
ChessMaster
#124 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:47:05 PM
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Observation sounds right. I wonder how man was before eating the fruit.What changed
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#125 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:01:54 PM
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When a program is running within confines, one is confident and 'innocent'.

When a bug is revealed what happens?
Shame and guilt come in.

What changed was how man began to see himself via the mirror.
ChessMaster
#126 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:03:59 PM
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I like that,we can't see ourselves without another person acting as a mirror but we end up seeing ourselves incomplete without them.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#127 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:18:47 PM
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Without an other, a mirror, one feels incomplete. He cannot see.

But when there's another, one sees his/her incompleteness.

Love becomes a search/ pursuit for completeness.
ChessMaster
#128 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:24:04 PM
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tycho wrote:
Without an other, a mirror, one feels incomplete. He cannot see.

But when there's another, one sees his/her incompleteness.

Love becomes a search/ pursuit for completeness.

At this point I have to say I'm stumped. If love and completeness are intertwined, how does love help achieve completeness. Does that mean we would be naturally attracted to people we can be complete with?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#129 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:35:38 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
Without an other, a mirror, one feels incomplete. He cannot see.

But when there's another, one sees his/her incompleteness.

Love becomes a search/ pursuit for completeness.

At this point I have to say I'm stumped. If love and completeness are intertwined, how does love help achieve completeness. Does that mean we would be naturally attracted to people we can be complete with?


Love fosters completeness through identification. The incomplete is accepted and embraced, and in this, guilt and shame are defeated.

Love is the debugging of the program.

Yes. We are attracted to people who can complete us. This is what is implied when Eve is called a 'helper'.
ChessMaster
#130 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:39:56 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
Without an other, a mirror, one feels incomplete. He cannot see.

But when there's another, one sees his/her incompleteness.

Love becomes a search/ pursuit for completeness.

At this point I have to say I'm stumped. If love and completeness are intertwined, how does love help achieve completeness. Does that mean we would be naturally attracted to people we can be complete with?


Love fosters completeness through identification. The incomplete is accepted and embraced, and in this, guilt and shame are defeated.

Love is the debugging of the program.

Yes. We are attracted to people who can complete us. This is what is implied when Eve is called a 'helper'.

Applause Applause
I think I get it now tycho.Today I've learnt something powerful.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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