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Battle of the smartphones in kenya
ChessMaster
#21 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:42:47 PM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Battery life depends on how you're using the phone.Performance in terms of what? Do you like keypads or touch?

not used to touch sana but ready to learn. I said hapo juu that i currently operate blackberry so advise me accordingly. I'm a having browser engaging guys on Wazua and other forums from my phone.


If you're used to a keypad you might get frustrated by touch when it comes to typing. Do you have opera on your phone?

Don't get that,what browser are you using?

sorry keyboard malfunction I meant to say I'm a HEAVY browser. Yes I do have and love opera mini.


Personally I've always loved and dealt with Sony Ericsson. They changed they game with the walkman. I don't really have an issue with Xperia ray but I doubt it has HTML5.Any phone you buy now should have it so you don't have to play the catch up game. Opera mini also has another product,opera mobile which is better than mini in many aspects.Disclosure,haven't used the ray but I have an Xperia on windows.Either if you can't access opera mobile from your current phone the upgrade will be good.

Snapshot of how I see smartphones in Kenya. Sony Ericsson,now sony is and I believe will always be Kenya's "iPhone".Biased maybe.People have problems syncing their iPhones. Samsung will replace Nokia as the phone everyone has but Nokia has an opportunity. Its recent,runs on windows phone 7/8. Its has fewer apps and fewer viruses but Kenyans have a long relationship with Nokia. Be careful though,windows mobile,windows phone 7 and windows phone 8 all have different aspects to them but the direction windows phone 8 is taking is more permanent.Safer bet. I don't like talking about blackberrys.

Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Elder
#22 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:20:11 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Battery life depends on how you're using the phone.Performance in terms of what? Do you like keypads or touch?

not used to touch sana but ready to learn. I said hapo juu that i currently operate blackberry so advise me accordingly. I'm a having browser engaging guys on Wazua and other forums from my phone.


If you're used to a keypad you might get frustrated by touch when it comes to typing. Do you have opera on your phone?

Don't get that,what browser are you using?

sorry keyboard malfunction I meant to say I'm a HEAVY browser. Yes I do have and love opera mini.


Personally I've always loved and dealt with Sony Ericsson. They changed they game with the walkman. I don't really have an issue with Xperia ray but I doubt it has HTML5.Any phone you buy now should have it so you don't have to play the catch up game. Opera mini also has another product,opera mobile which is better than mini in many aspects.Disclosure,haven't used the ray but I have an Xperia on windows.Either if you can't access opera mobile from your current phone the upgrade will be good.

Why the need for HTML5? And Opera as an important product for a smart phone is kind of strange. 99% of the time I access the web on my phone using Apps. I only use the browser directly (and rarely so) for sites like wazua without Apps and then rarely for long on the phone .

ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Battery life depends on how you're using the phone.Performance in terms of what? Do you like keypads or touch?

not used to touch sana but ready to learn. I said hapo juu that i currently operate blackberry so advise me accordingly. I'm a having browser engaging guys on Wazua and other forums from my phone.


If you're used to a keypad you might get frustrated by touch when it comes to typing. Do you have opera on your phone?

Don't get that,what browser are you using?

sorry keyboard malfunction I meant to say I'm a HEAVY browser. Yes I do have and love opera mini.


Snapshot of how I see smartphones in Kenya. Sony Ericsson,now sony is and I believe will always be Kenya's "iPhone".Biased maybe.People have problems syncing their iPhones. Samsung will replace Nokia as the phone everyone has but Nokia has an opportunity. Its recent,runs on windows phone 7/8. Its has fewer apps and fewer viruses but Kenyans have a long relationship with Nokia. Be careful though,windows mobile,windows phone 7 and windows phone 8 all have different aspects to them but the direction windows phone 8 is taking is more permanent.Safer bet. I don't like talking about blackberrys.



What sorts of syncing problems are those with iPhones? There is no upgrade path from Windows Phone 7 to 8 - the latter is a total remake. So it is best to stay away from any WP 7 phones, same with non Blackberry 10 phones. On Sony phones haven't seen any in the wild here in Kenya. Out of interest, who uses them?
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
ChessMaster
#23 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:31:26 PM
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Elder wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Battery life depends on how you're using the phone.Performance in terms of what? Do you like keypads or touch?

not used to touch sana but ready to learn. I said hapo juu that i currently operate blackberry so advise me accordingly. I'm a having browser engaging guys on Wazua and other forums from my phone.


If you're used to a keypad you might get frustrated by touch when it comes to typing. Do you have opera on your phone?

Don't get that,what browser are you using?

sorry keyboard malfunction I meant to say I'm a HEAVY browser. Yes I do have and love opera mini.


Personally I've always loved and dealt with Sony Ericsson. They changed they game with the walkman. I don't really have an issue with Xperia ray but I doubt it has HTML5.Any phone you buy now should have it so you don't have to play the catch up game. Opera mini also has another product,opera mobile which is better than mini in many aspects.Disclosure,haven't used the ray but I have an Xperia on windows.Either if you can't access opera mobile from your current phone the upgrade will be good.

Why the need for HTML5? And Opera as an important product for a smart phone is kind of strange. 99% of the time I access the web on my phone using Apps. I only use the browser directly (and rarely so) for sites like wazua without Apps and then rarely for long on the phone .

ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Battery life depends on how you're using the phone.Performance in terms of what? Do you like keypads or touch?

not used to touch sana but ready to learn. I said hapo juu that i currently operate blackberry so advise me accordingly. I'm a having browser engaging guys on Wazua and other forums from my phone.


If you're used to a keypad you might get frustrated by touch when it comes to typing. Do you have opera on your phone?

Don't get that,what browser are you using?

sorry keyboard malfunction I meant to say I'm a HEAVY browser. Yes I do have and love opera mini.


Snapshot of how I see smartphones in Kenya. Sony Ericsson,now sony is and I believe will always be Kenya's "iPhone".Biased maybe.People have problems syncing their iPhones. Samsung will replace Nokia as the phone everyone has but Nokia has an opportunity. Its recent,runs on windows phone 7/8. Its has fewer apps and fewer viruses but Kenyans have a long relationship with Nokia. Be careful though,windows mobile,windows phone 7 and windows phone 8 all have different aspects to them but the direction windows phone 8 is taking is more permanent.Safer bet. I don't like talking about blackberrys.



What sorts of syncing problems are those with iPhones? There is no upgrade path from Windows Phone 7 to 8 - the latter is a total remake. So it is best to stay away from any WP 7 phones, same with non Blackberry 10 phones. On Sony phones haven't seen any in the wild here in Kenya. Out of interest, who uses them?


html5 is a powerful standard. Gives more options to both the individual and the developers. It can be used to make apps for all phones that have rather than one app for each phone. With html5,you can also manage better how smartphones interact with websites without changing so much of the website. Its basically less powerful than apps on the phone but more inclusive for both desktop and smartphone.

iPhones,to the majority is a completely new technology.Its admired but not out there enough for everyone to understand its potential.You are so right about windows phone 7 upgrade to windows phone 8. Windows has been changing approaches but windows phone 8 is more in tune with windows 8.

Sony's are around but not so much.That's where they get their "prestige" from. They are also perceived to be complicated but with android,not so much.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
kyt
#24 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:53:20 PM
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which is the best document editor smart phone
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ChessMaster
#25 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:55:32 PM
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What type of document?
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Elder
#26 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:06:59 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Elder wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Battery life depends on how you're using the phone.Performance in terms of what? Do you like keypads or touch?

not used to touch sana but ready to learn. I said hapo juu that i currently operate blackberry so advise me accordingly. I'm a having browser engaging guys on Wazua and other forums from my phone.


If you're used to a keypad you might get frustrated by touch when it comes to typing. Do you have opera on your phone?

Don't get that,what browser are you using?

sorry keyboard malfunction I meant to say I'm a HEAVY browser. Yes I do have and love opera mini.


Personally I've always loved and dealt with Sony Ericsson. They changed they game with the walkman. I don't really have an issue with Xperia ray but I doubt it has HTML5.Any phone you buy now should have it so you don't have to play the catch up game. Opera mini also has another product,opera mobile which is better than mini in many aspects.Disclosure,haven't used the ray but I have an Xperia on windows.Either if you can't access opera mobile from your current phone the upgrade will be good.

Why the need for HTML5? And Opera as an important product for a smart phone is kind of strange. 99% of the time I access the web on my phone using Apps. I only use the browser directly (and rarely so) for sites like wazua without Apps and then rarely for long on the phone .

ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Battery life depends on how you're using the phone.Performance in terms of what? Do you like keypads or touch?

not used to touch sana but ready to learn. I said hapo juu that i currently operate blackberry so advise me accordingly. I'm a having browser engaging guys on Wazua and other forums from my phone.


If you're used to a keypad you might get frustrated by touch when it comes to typing. Do you have opera on your phone?

Don't get that,what browser are you using?

sorry keyboard malfunction I meant to say I'm a HEAVY browser. Yes I do have and love opera mini.


Snapshot of how I see smartphones in Kenya. Sony Ericsson,now sony is and I believe will always be Kenya's "iPhone".Biased maybe.People have problems syncing their iPhones. Samsung will replace Nokia as the phone everyone has but Nokia has an opportunity. Its recent,runs on windows phone 7/8. Its has fewer apps and fewer viruses but Kenyans have a long relationship with Nokia. Be careful though,windows mobile,windows phone 7 and windows phone 8 all have different aspects to them but the direction windows phone 8 is taking is more permanent.Safer bet. I don't like talking about blackberrys.



What sorts of syncing problems are those with iPhones? There is no upgrade path from Windows Phone 7 to 8 - the latter is a total remake. So it is best to stay away from any WP 7 phones, same with non Blackberry 10 phones. On Sony phones haven't seen any in the wild here in Kenya. Out of interest, who uses them?


html5 is a powerful standard. Gives more options to both the individual and the developers. It can be used to make apps for all phones that have rather than one app for each phone. With html5,you can also manage better how smartphones interact with websites without changing so much of the website. Its basically less powerful than apps on the phone but more inclusive for both desktop and smartphone.

iPhones,to the majority is a completely new technology.Its admired but not out there enough for everyone to understand its potential.You are so right about windows phone 7 upgrade to windows phone 8. Windows has been changing approaches but windows phone 8 is more in tune with windows 8.

Sony's are around but not so much.That's where they get their "prestige" from. They are also perceived to be complicated but with android,not so much.

Iphone is a pretty simple phone to use out of the box. In fact syncing it is pretty easy. You just plug it into your comp and iTunes does the rest. Like they claim it just works. That's why I wonder where the syncing problem you talked of was coming from.

I would imagine that a phone would be premium (?) coz it's a cut above the rest or premiumly priced. Find it weird that people can find Sony prestigious just coz people don't like it enough to buy it. You are seriously the first Kenyan I have heard thinking along those lines about a Sony phone.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
ChessMaster
#27 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:12:35 PM
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Think of the broader market,how many Kenyans even if you were to give them an iPhone would know what iTunes is.People like Sony,they just don't want to understand it. It then becomes perceived as something different even though it might not be.But I bet you'll start seeing Xperias more often. Then again,maybe I'm biased
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Elder
#28 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:39:35 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Think of the broader market,how many Kenyans even if you were to give them an iPhone would know what iTunes is.People like Sony,they just don't want to understand it. It then becomes perceived as something different even though it might not be.But I bet you'll start seeing Xperias more often. Then again,maybe I'm biased

Must be a bias. smile smile I would believe the Kenyans with iPhones would know what iTunes is. Interestingly I have been seeing a good number of iPhones in the wild. 3G and 3GS mostly with students and 4 and 4S (anecdotal yes but these seem to be the favorites of Somalis). 5 have only seen like a handful. Sumsungs are all over. The guys really know how to capture the market.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
ChessMaster
#29 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:45:01 PM
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Elder wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Think of the broader market,how many Kenyans even if you were to give them an iPhone would know what iTunes is.People like Sony,they just don't want to understand it. It then becomes perceived as something different even though it might not be.But I bet you'll start seeing Xperias more often. Then again,maybe I'm biased

Must be a bias. smile smile I would believe the Kenyans with iPhones would know what iTunes is. Interestingly I have been seeing a good number of iPhones in the wild. 3G and 3GS mostly with students and 4 and 4S (anecdotal yes but these seem to be the favorites of Somalis). 5 have only seen like a handful. Sumsungs are all over. The guys really know how to capture the market.


Kenyans with iPhones would know,what about the others.What electronics don't they make from satellite parts to tvs
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kyt
#30 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:17:31 AM
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ChessMaster wrote:
What type of document?

word pdf excel powerpoint access
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maka
#31 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:21:50 PM
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eish you guys are good at this tech things just as YT2 is good @recognising a land grabber and throwing stones...keep up informing us good work.
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ChessMaster
#32 Posted : Friday, February 01, 2013 8:45:58 PM
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kyt wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
What type of document?

word pdf excel powerpoint access


What phone OS you on.Word,excel and powerpoint are microsoft products.I'm not sure if there are android applications for it but I'll check. Windows mobile,phone 7/7.5 and 8 have this products.

@maka - Thanks.It's all about sharing our collective knowledge and growing together.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
ChessMaster
#33 Posted : Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:32:34 AM
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Microsoft Office Kenya

Huawei Low Cost Windows Phone

Another joins the game.Customized version of Huawei Ascend W1

Specs

Now I want to see if NFC,HMTL5 and GPS will be in the Kenyan version. All game changers.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Money Whisperer
#34 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:23:30 AM
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I've checked out most smartphones in the market and researched on what experts and consumers say and I must say this. Sony is the phone of the future they have good intentions and working on smart stuff that @Chessmaster has elaborated here but they are not there yet. I checked out LG Optimus Vu. now LG is still groping in the dark on this smartphone issue. the only guys who seem to have mastered the smartphone are Apple, Blackberry, Samsung and to a some degree Nokia (they started on the wrong foot but they have regained balanced) Blackberry and Iphone are restrictive, it doesn't make sense to move from BB to Iphone. i wanted the freedom of Android, so I think I will swallow my pride and go samsung or remain with Blackberry.
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ChessMaster
#35 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:26:57 PM
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I don't like how smartphones are coming out with touch only.Keypads/boards are bulky but more versatile especially if it comes with touch too.
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techboy
#36 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:36:52 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
kyt wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
What type of document?

word pdf excel powerpoint access


What phone OS you on.Word,excel and powerpoint are microsoft products.I'm not sure if there are android applications for it but I'll check. Windows mobile,phone 7/7.5 and 8 have this products.

@maka - Thanks.It's all about sharing our collective knowledge and growing together.


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you . you can view word and excel documents on ANDROID using Documents To Go for Android Smartphones
Mainat
#37 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 3:16:49 PM
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Try nexus
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madollar
#38 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 3:37:03 PM
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Intels YOLO currently out of stock next batch to arrive after six weeks says safaricom .Looks like everybody will have a slice of the market........
kyt
#39 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:03:58 PM
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techboy wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
kyt wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
What type of document?

word pdf excel powerpoint access


What phone OS you on.Word,excel and powerpoint are microsoft products.I'm not sure if there are android applications for it but I'll check. Windows mobile,phone 7/7.5 and 8 have this products.

@maka - Thanks.It's all about sharing our collective knowledge and growing together.


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you . you can view word and excel documents on ANDROID using Documents To Go for Android Smartphones

@techboy but can you create a word, ppt and excel document in android OS phones? reply!!!
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Ash Ock
#40 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:15:08 PM
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kyt wrote:

@techboy but can you create a word, ppt and excel document in android OS phones? reply!!!


There are quite a few Android apps which one can use to create office documents under Android. I personally use this one: OfficeSuite 7 (Google Play Store link), which costs substantially less than forking over half a month's fuel expenses to buy MS Office. Never had a problem transferring documents between my tab and desktop running Office 2013.
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