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Do we really have a City Planning Department? and do they know what's happening in Pipeline??
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josimar
#11 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 4:17:48 PM
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The growing outskirts of Ongata Rongai , Kitengela and Isinya may soon follow suit if the relevany councils do not reinforce planning laws.
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#12 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 4:20:39 PM
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same with Mathare north and Kayole. Interiors of these buildings dont even have proper ventilation, leading to pulmonary diseases. The next govt has a herculian task to restore these places to acceptable habitation levels.
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#13 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 4:22:58 PM
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#14 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 4:34:37 PM
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The irony of it all is that the cost of constructing such a slumscraper is nearly the same as constructing in kileleshwa. A minimum of kes 25,000 per m2 will be used while the kileleshwa buildings start at kes 28,000 per m2. This means its the local authority failing to enforce rules since these developers can afford millions in terms of infrastructure if laws are enforced.
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jamplu
#15 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 4:56:40 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
The irony of it all is that the cost of constructing such a slumscraper is nearly the same as constructing in kileleshwa. A minimum of kes 25,000 per m2 will be used while the kileleshwa buildings start at kes 28,000 per m2. This means its the local authority failing to enforce rules since these developers can afford millions in terms of infrastructure if laws are enforced.


If the construction is on loan how do people manage to pay off the debt because i believe rent somehow will remain at same level or increment kidogo kidogo tu if not go down as the situation worsens off do these guyz break even?
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#16 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 5:07:27 PM
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most of the houses here are bedsiters, 1 bd and 2 bd. With rents of 4k, 5.5k and 9.5k for these, repayment period is 10 to 12 years. Rents in pipeline are higher so repayment period is shorter.
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sanity
#17 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 5:25:59 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
The irony of it all is that the cost of constructing such a slumscraper is nearly the same as constructing in kileleshwa. A minimum of kes 25,000 per m2 will be used while the kileleshwa buildings start at kes 28,000 per m2. This means its the local authority failing to enforce rules since these developers can afford millions in terms of infrastructure if laws are enforced.


@architect,we cannot all live in Kileleshwa.we have to accept that we need cheaper housing for a large part of our Nairobi population.This is the alternative found in pipeline and other similar areas.If you look keenly onto the photo,the houses seem ok.however the infrastructure and the sewage/drainage is the problem.This is where the council has failed because they should provide these facilities before people develop to such a high rate.Just imagine if there were no single rooms @3-4K,and bedsitters @6-7K ,where would all those people live?and I can assure its a huge number....just take a walk along the Airport north road from Taj mall to Cabanas from 1700hrs and you will know what I'm talking about.
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#18 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 5:33:08 PM
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@sanity..very true..exactly what am saying. Construction cost in Pipeline is just as expensive as in upmarket areas. The only drawback is lack of byelaw enforcement.
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FRM2011
#19 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:49:07 PM
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josimar wrote:
The growing outskirts of Ongata Rongai , Kitengela and Isinya may soon follow suit if the relevany councils do not reinforce planning laws.


@josimar some sections of ongata rongai are already this bad. Actually, worse since there is no sewer line and some landlords empty their septic tanks onto the road at night.
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wavidani
#20 Posted : Friday, February 01, 2013 3:59:52 AM
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The buildings look okay.The roads and clothes look really bad.What amazes me is that one is ready to spend more than 10 million putting up the buildings but ready to spend zero on infrastructure.If all the landlords in the picture got together and contributed money they could put trenches/ditches on the sides of the road to ferry rainwater and also put murram at the very least or even concrete on the road and their properties would look so much better and maybe fetch more rent.Even if a landlord just did the patch infront of his plot and the next one did his etc coz if they wait for council/govt it will take forever!
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