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Do we really have a City Planning Department? and do they know what's happening in Pipeline??
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jamplu
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:44:59 PM
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This is Nairobi...Pipeline area. Are we really investing or just creating more slums and more problems.

Things are out of control d'oh!




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Am
#2 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:28:03 PM
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This ia a real sorry story. And we want to elect land grabbers. The road in between looks to me to be 3 metres at most. Should this not be the usual 9 minimum?
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Mjasirii
#3 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 8:21:28 AM
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The council is a shame,they have no idea what is their mandate.Kazi ni hawkers kila siku.
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majimaji
#4 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 8:58:50 AM
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We are quick to blame the council, but we are responsible for the impunity too.

This Pipeline land consists of land forcefully taken away from its legal owners and sold in bits. Since grabbed land has no title, City council cannot approve any buildings here and any attempt to demolish is met by resistance by akina Clifford YT2
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mkonomtupu
#5 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 11:02:45 AM
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majimaji wrote:

We are quick to blame the council, but we are responsible for the impunity too.

This Pipeline land consists of land forcefully taken away from its legal owners and sold in bits. Since grabbed land has no title, City council cannot approve any buildings here and any attempt to demolish is met by resistance by akina Clifford YT2


So true the city planning department actually runs very well but that pipeline-Embakasi area is a no-go-zone for them and to think Clifford YT2 will be the governor d'oh! d'oh!

Actually this is not a slum when you visit some areas then you will see things really out of control.

The best period in this city was when we used to have the City Commission things worked, kameros collected garbage every saturday, never used to boil the tap water, when someone set up a kiosk illegally you just called city hall and it would be demolished the next day, when buses came on time and you board from juja road to Kenyatta, when exercise books were distributed to kids in nursery and primary schools. Then we started electing kajuras from 1992 and the city went to the dogs
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mkeiyd
#6 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 11:11:32 AM
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mkonomtupu wrote:

The best period in this city was when we used to have the City Commission things worked, kameros collected garbage every saturday, never used to boil the tap water, when someone set up a kiosk illegally you just called city hall and it would be demolished the next day, when buses came on time and you board from juja road to Kenyatta, when exercise books were distributed to kids in nursery and primary schools.


This was PK's narration yesterday at PEFA Donholm. He also talked of how to make things work again by killing impunity by investing serious in the judiciary to make it possible to fast-track economic crimes within 90 days.
After hanging a few big fish to dry, discipline would be back in the management of our resources.

Nairobi has a City planning dept which is more interested in coercing bribes than implementing the master plan.
blame it all on corruption and impunity.
We fix those two, and order will start creeping back.
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a4architect.com
#7 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 12:41:03 PM
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The local Government, under which City Planning lies, is to blame for this kind of chaos. They either are overwhelmed by the number of new developments or are complacent due to corruption. NCC should have ensured all buildings are constructed to the agreed standards before the developers constructed. NCC should also spearhead roads and sewer services and ensure building owners maintain their buildings annually.
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jamplu
#8 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 1:28:09 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
The local Government, under which City Planning lies, is to blame for this kind of chaos. They either are overwhelmed by the number of new developments or are complacent due to corruption. NCC should have ensured all buildings are constructed to the agreed standards before the developers constructed. NCC should also spearhead roads and sewer services and ensure building owners maintain their buildings annually.



@a4architect.com if i may ask is there a legislation which provides guidelines on what should come first Infrastructure vs Settlement??
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a4architect.com
#9 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 3:04:50 PM
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yes. Its within local authority bylaws. When proposing to subdivide land, you are required to provide a level of infrastructure before ministry of lands issue titles,from where developers can start to build.
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poundfoolish
#10 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 3:56:44 PM
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jamplu wrote:
This is Nairobi...Pipeline area. Are we really investing or just creating more slums and more problems.

Things are out of control d'oh!






Huruma looks just like this..
there is a time i took a bored walk in huruma.. schools were closed and the place has no playgrounds.. so you can imagine the amount of noise that comes from the highrises..
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