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mnandii		#41 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:01:28 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304		[quote=mukiha]A technician knows how to tighten a nut while an engineer knows why the nut is tightened by the given amount and not more and not less. If you employ a engineer and expect her to be tightening nuts all day, you will fail. If you employ a technician and expect him to design nut tightening systems, you will also fail. The bigger problem we face is that many employers don't actually know the difference between the two cadres of employees.[/quote] :-( Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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a4architect.com		#42 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:33:33 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi		certificates measure the ammount of knowledge that someone has invested in a particular field. Some dip holders with a passion for what they do and a liking / thirst for knowledge in their field will have invested more than degree holders hence offering better services. Unfortunately, the only way for the market in general to gauge this knowledge is through formal education/papers. Eg a nurse who has for the last 10 years researched on a particular cancer can be better than a doc who for the same period, has not put in any effort to learn new things in cancer treatment. It will be nearly impossible for the market to trust the nurse since he has no doctoral papers unless through a referral. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Mchanganuzi		#43 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:51:51 PM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/16/2013 Posts: 46		[quote=ChessMaster]Would you want to be a technician or an engineer?[/quote] Why would i want to tighten nuts rather than design them?#-o
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ChessMaster		#44 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:56:50 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626		Why would you want to design nuts than tighten them? Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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BGL		#45 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:02:15 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/11/2009 Posts: 1,223		[quote=jakai]Diploma holders tend to develop sharper technical competencies in their study areas than degree holders. People with degrees plus a professional or post-grad cert will tell you the professional or post-grad certs are what actually gets them to an interview and finally to the job. In fact, the trend is that those who are engaged in some community of practice or have attended powerful conferences within or outside the country qualify better and get the job done. But why is there a problem with degrees in Kenya? it is the quality of those graduates. Most of them cant even articulate anything in straight and good english. All they can do is sing all the subjects covered in the lecture rooms.[/quote] There is a problem with the education system nowadays...... We have people who just know that 'i graduated with 1st class hons' and 'i graduated from UoN'. Once on the job, they are clueless. I am talking about technical subjects. History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
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ChessMaster		#46 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:09:29 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626		Whats the purpose of education? Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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mukiha		#47 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 4:19:14 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114		[quote=ChessMaster]Whats the purpose of education?[/quote] didn't Einstein say that education is what remains after you have forgotten all that you were taught in school? Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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ChessMaster		#48 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 4:23:22 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626		[quote=mukiha][quote=ChessMaster]Whats the purpose of education?[/quote] didn't Einstein say that education is what remains after you have forgotten all that you were taught in school?[/quote] Yes he did.In this case its what remains after your degree/diploma:-) Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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mukiha		#49 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 6:13:33 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114		[quote=ChessMaster][quote=mukiha][quote=ChessMaster]Whats the purpose of education?[/quote] didn't Einstein say that education is what remains after you have forgotten all that you were taught in school?[/quote] Yes he did.In this case its what remains after your degree/diploma:-) [/quote] Can we then conclude that this whole debate is moot? Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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tycho		#50 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 6:20:43 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		[quote=mukiha][quote=ChessMaster][quote=mukiha][quote=ChessMaster]Whats the purpose of education?[/quote] didn't Einstein say that education is what remains after you have forgotten all that you were taught in school?[/quote] Yes he did.In this case its what remains after your degree/diploma:-) [/quote] Can we then conclude that this whole debate is moot?[/quote] Yes. It depends on who is asking, and what he/she is after.
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