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Kona Baridi -Ngong Hills
propertyzote
#1 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 3:33:30 PM
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The next frontier: All factors considered this place is the next big place. In particular Kipeto Rd as you drive down towards kipeto center. For those who "see far" this area has serious potential. I dont know when Junguz got here. They have practically bought all the land to the right of kipeto road overlooking the magadi, kampi ya bibi, maasai village and ole polos valley. This place has some breath taking views. It really answers the question why Leaky would comfortably own 1000+ acres which am sure was purchased at a throw away price. To the left side of the road is what the maasai are now selling at 0.7-1.2M per acre.. http://bit.ly/YrXAMb , http://bit.ly/11WjLLj Unconfirmed reports have it that Wazungus from karen had an exodus to this place. The move from Karen I believe is because it too crowded and jammed up. Most of whom have a couple of hundred's of acres. The Proposed greater southern by pass from Salama through kona baridi, suswa to Mai maihu eventually to Naivasha. If this is anything to go by...this place will be having a bevy of activity sooner than soon. Your thoughts..
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#2 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 3:37:43 PM
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propertyzote wrote:
The next frontier: All factors considered this place is the next big place. In particular Kipeto Rd as you drive down towards kipeto center. For those who "see far" this area has serious potential. I dont know when Junguz got here. They have practically bought all the land to the right of kipeto road overlooking the magadi, kampi ya bibi, maasai village and ole polos valley. This place has some breath taking views. It really answers the question why Leaky would comfortably own 1000+ acres which am sure was purchased at a throw away price. To the left side of the road is what the maasai are now selling at 0.7-1.2M per acre.. http://bit.ly/YrXAMb , http://bit.ly/11WjLLj Unconfirmed reports have it that Wazungus from karen had an exodus to this place. The move from Karen I believe is because it too crowded and jammed up. Most of whom have a couple of hundred's of acres. The Proposed greater southern by pass from Salama through kona baridi, suswa to Mai maihu eventually to Naivasha. If this is anything to go by...this place will be having a bevy of activity sooner than soon. Your thoughts..


My intention is not to be rude,what exactly are these factors?
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Chaka
#3 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 4:11:57 PM
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Where exactly is Kipeto Centre?The Kona Baridi I know is on the way to Kisames...My understanding of the southern by-pass is that the road will run from Mombasa Road->Kitengela_>Olkeri in Ngong-Ngong Town->Kibiko->Kikuyu->Nakuru Highway and thus will not pass via corner baridi...I could be wrong so pls clarify
propertyzote
#4 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 4:22:57 PM
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@Chessmaster.. 1.Kona Baridi's Proximity to CBD thus one can easily afford to build a second up-country home. 2. Awesome whether. 3. Extensive flat land with ridges at the end of the valley hence controlled expansion. 4.A mix of good soil and rocky ground, hence cheap stone material for construction. 5.Presence of a KPLC power-line. 6. Piped water accessibile from a permanent natural reserve!
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ChessMaster
#5 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 4:25:51 PM
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Thank you.
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propertyzote
#6 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 4:27:18 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Where exactly is Kipeto Centre?The Kona Baridi I know is on the way to Kisames...My understanding of the southern by-pass is that the road will run from Mombasa Road->Kitengela_>Olkeri in Ngong-Ngong Town->Kibiko->Kikuyu->Nakuru Highway and thus will not pass via corner baridi...I could be wrong so pls clarify

I have the Map...I can share once i scale it down and put it on soft! You are right the one you are talking about is there. This is the greater proposed southern by pass..
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Chaka
#7 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 4:34:29 PM
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propertyzote wrote:

I have the Map...I can share once i scale it down and put it on soft! You are right the one you are talking about is there. This is the greater proposed southern by pass..

@Propertyzote,I am actually talking about the greater southern by-pass and not the southern by-pass.Pls do share the map when it is ready.Where is Kipeto Centre?
propertyzote
#8 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 4:48:13 PM
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Chaka wrote:
propertyzote wrote:

I have the Map...I can share once i scale it down and put it on soft! You are right the one you are talking about is there. This is the greater proposed southern by pass..

@Propertyzote,I am actually talking about the greater southern by-pass and not the southern by-pass.Pls do share the map when it is ready.Where is Kipeto Centre?

Its about 16Km from Kona Baridi..along what google calls lopoisen rd. The locals call it Kipeto rd. I will share it once i have it on soft..
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#9 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:02:06 AM
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What about buying for divide and resell? Property-zote you're only talking abt construction...any reason for that? Why the range in pricing, the 0.7 - 1m/acre?
mibbz
#10 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:13:46 AM
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with all due respect i do not see that region growing as fast as property zote is promoting for the following reasons:

1.the GoK is commiting to build the greater eastern bypass before the greater southern bypass mainly due to the lack of an alternative road to bypass the thika toll station and its inernational law that an alternative route must be in place before one can effect tolls on a road although am sure at some point they shall tarmac the ngong-suswa road.

2. 25 Billion has been earmarked for the expansion of the uhuru highway from somewhere near the airport to rironi,i believe its 58 kms in total of a double decker road. This together with the ongoing southern bypass from ole sereni to kikuyu shall greatly reduce traffic on the uhuru highway thus reduce the need for an alternative road in the form of the greater southern bypass as there shall be two very good alternatives in the above 2.

3.the county governments are soon coming into effect and very soon you shall see a flight of construction capital from Nairobi and its environs i.e likes of kitengela,thika,athi,sigona and the developers shall move to satisfy a huge demand of decent housing at the county level. Actually a world bank report alluded to the same,there is risk of capital flight from the city to mashinani

4.lastly a recent aarticle actually a week ago on the thursday paper was cautioning people against buying property with speculative intention that the GoK shall be putting up massive infrastructure in the region and they used two case scenaros,a chap who bought land in juja pre-thika road upgrade and another who bought in Kiserian after the GoK said they would construct a railway from nairobi via kiserian-magadi to Tanzania.well we know who won big and who lost out.....

These 4 reasons are why i believe there are better speculative opportunities elsewhere eg Nakuru,Kisumu,Lamu instead of land in Kona baridi and property zote can kindly confirm to us how land has been appreciating in these towns for the past 1 year. comments are welcome
Am
#11 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:02:44 PM
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mibbz wrote:
with all due respect i do not see that region growing as fast as property zote is promoting for the following reasons:

1.the GoK is commiting to build the greater eastern bypass before the greater southern bypass mainly due to the lack of an alternative road to bypass the thika toll station and its inernational law that an alternative route must be in place before one can effect tolls on a road although am sure at some point they shall tarmac the ngong-suswa road.

2. 25 Billion has been earmarked for the expansion of the uhuru highway from somewhere near the airport to rironi,i believe its 58 kms in total of a double decker road. This together with the ongoing southern bypass from ole sereni to kikuyu shall greatly reduce traffic on the uhuru highway thus reduce the need for an alternative road in the form of the greater southern bypass as there shall be two very good alternatives in the above 2.

3.the county governments are soon coming into effect and very soon you shall see a flight of construction capital from Nairobi and its environs i.e likes of kitengela,thika,athi,sigona and the developers shall move to satisfy a huge demand of decent housing at the county level. Actually a world bank report alluded to the same,there is risk of capital flight from the city to mashinani

4.lastly a recent aarticle actually a week ago on the thursday paper was cautioning people against buying property with speculative intention that the GoK shall be putting up massive infrastructure in the region and they used two case scenaros,a chap who bought land in juja pre-thika road upgrade and another who bought in Kiserian after the GoK said they would construct a railway from nairobi via kiserian-magadi to Tanzania.well we know who won big and who lost out.....

These 4 reasons are why i believe there are better speculative opportunities elsewhere eg Nakuru,Kisumu,Lamu instead of land in Kona baridi and property zote can kindly confirm to us how land has been appreciating in these towns for the past 1 year. comments are welcome


@Mibbs. That is elaborate. BTW, When are they planning to start the greater eastern bypass, any idea please? KURA wesite has been saying that the road is "on design stage" for the last 2 years...
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propertyzote
#12 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:20:34 PM
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ChumsQuest wrote:
What about buying for divide and resell? Property-zote you're only talking abt construction...any reason for that? Why the range in pricing, the 0.7 - 1m/acre?

Buying for divide and sell is possible. "you're only talking abt construction...any reason for that?"...i dont follow.The pricing depends on the distance from Kona Baridi..,distance from Kipeto Rd, With or Without viewing.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:24:06 PM
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@AM the GoK slowed down on the bypass as the focus was mainly on thika road but now that they want to start a toll,lobby groups threatened to sue due to lack of alternative route.i think thats what made them wake up from the slumber....

plus i have visited both the greater southern bypass and the greater eastern bypass region and interacted with the locals,the side that looks more promising as regards start of works is the greater eastern so if i were to speculate thats the place although i can give you very many other towns in Kenya with massive and i mean massive potential based on my various interviews and visits plus mingling with the locals

Lastly GoK has very many many good infrastructure plans but its all about priority and the smart investors/speculators shall reap handsomely.always do your research
Chaka
#14 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:53:11 PM
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[quote=mibbzalthough i can give you very many other towns in Kenya with massive and i mean massive potential based on my various interviews and visits plus mingling with the locals

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@Mibbz,
I will appreciate this info..pls sambaza..chakacrafts(at)email.com..be blessed
Am
#15 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:24:02 PM
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mibbz wrote:
@AM the GoK slowed down on the bypass as the focus was mainly on thika road but now that they want to start a toll,lobby groups threatened to sue due to lack of alternative route.i think thats what made them wake up from the slumber....

plus i have visited both the greater southern bypass and the greater eastern bypass region and interacted with the locals,the side that looks more promising as regards start of works is the greater eastern so if i were to speculate thats the place although i can give you very many other towns in Kenya with massive and i mean massive potential based on my various interviews and visits plus mingling with the locals

Lastly GoK has very many many good infrastructure plans but its all about priority and the smart investors/speculators shall reap handsomely.always do your research


@Mibbs.I agree in totallity. But the Toll aside, do you think they will start the greater eastern bypass in the near future?
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mibbz
#16 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:21:43 PM
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Am wrote:
mibbz wrote:
@AM the GoK slowed down on the bypass as the focus was mainly on thika road but now that they want to start a toll,lobby groups threatened to sue due to lack of alternative route.i think thats what made them wake up from the slumber....

plus i have visited both the greater southern bypass and the greater eastern bypass region and interacted with the locals,the side that looks more promising as regards start of works is the greater eastern so if i were to speculate thats the place although i can give you very many other towns in Kenya with massive and i mean massive potential based on my various interviews and visits plus mingling with the locals

Lastly GoK has very many many good infrastructure plans but its all about priority and the smart investors/speculators shall reap handsomely.always do your research


@Mibbs.I agree in totallity. But the Toll aside, do you think they will start the greater eastern bypass in the near future?


I believe in a years time it shall have started,probably looking for financing right now. The biggest threat to that project is devolution of the GoK
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#17 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:44:16 PM
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Kona Baridi should be a good buy for the younger folk. Who knows what will happen in 10yrs? For the patient and the not-so-well-monied, these are the options we look for. But I would welcome a chance to invest in other towns. @mibbz, please give us an analysis of opportunities elsewhere.
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#18 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 2:19:11 AM
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[quote=mibbz][quote=Am][quote=mibbz]@AM the GoK i can give you very many other towns in Kenya with massive and i mean massive potentialApplause @Mibbz pls give us your insight on this...Some of us are not young and need short-term speculative goals. Wacha the tuyoung ones buy kona baridi....Hopefully we won't regret this in 2 yrs...Tununue Maragua ama hiyo ni waste of time?
Am
#19 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 8:01:52 AM
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mibbz wrote:
Am wrote:
mibbz wrote:
@AM the GoK slowed down on the bypass as the focus was mainly on thika road but now that they want to start a toll,lobby groups threatened to sue due to lack of alternative route.i think thats what made them wake up from the slumber....

plus i have visited both the greater southern bypass and the greater eastern bypass region and interacted with the locals,the side that looks more promising as regards start of works is the greater eastern so if i were to speculate thats the place although i can give you very many other towns in Kenya with massive and i mean massive potential based on my various interviews and visits plus mingling with the locals

Lastly GoK has very many many good infrastructure plans but its all about priority and the smart investors/speculators shall reap handsomely.always do your research


@Mibbs.I agree in totallity. But the Toll aside, do you think they will start the greater eastern bypass in the near future?


I believe in a years time it shall have started,probably looking for financing right now. The biggest threat to that project is devolution of the GoK



@Mibbs.. Many thanks again. Could you please enlighten me on the other towns with Botential on amor947@yahoo.com
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#20 Posted : Monday, January 28, 2013 9:33:43 AM
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Any body interested in Elangata Wuas in Kajiado..?
As somebody has mentioned its for the young.. patient and mid term goal oriented..

Plots were going for 30K/acre a year a go.. now approaching 100K/acre courtesy of Safaricom and some Big men investment clubs..
The place is good for ranching..green house farming.. now that we are converting the rest of Agric land into housing estates...

If interested let me know.. im aiming at a further 100acres to add to what i have.. that means 170 acres for those interested..
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