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Sonko on Citizen TV
savant
#81 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:07:01 AM
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The biggest impact the middleclass has in Kenya is knowledge. When and if the middleclass start talking to people upcountry and explaining to them things then things will change. That I have to agree,we don't share the knowledge but we judge them when they take action.- @McReggae

I've also come to the same conclusion. If we're to all move forward together, knowledge and action must go hand in hand.
Généralement, les gens qui savant peu parlent becoup, et les gens qui savant beaucoup parlent peu.
- Rousseau.
Amurabi.
#82 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:17:06 AM
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Truth be told.I never new this guy the way i know him now. How i wish i was a nairobian voter.
Some have been thought brave because they were afraid to run away.
smano
#83 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:33:18 AM
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You cannot coach a fool. And one can only be coached so much.

If the basics of the masses are met it is easier to talk about development of the City into a true metropolis like Singapore. That said I'd rather vote for a manager than a politician, even if it's a case of the lesser of two evils.More likely than not both are in bed together
BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
tycho
#84 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:35:35 AM
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savant wrote:
The biggest impact the middleclass has in Kenya is knowledge. When and if the middleclass start talking to people upcountry and explaining to them things then things will change. That I have to agree,we don't share the knowledge but we judge them when they take action.- @McReggae

I've also come to the same conclusion. If we're to all move forward together, knowledge and action must go hand in hand.


Yes. But this path has its pains. Yet it is the way of nobility.

I also agree with you @2012. Let us come together and build our city, our world.
ChessMaster
#85 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:37:54 AM
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Do you think people will jump to conclusions about the two pilots he's sponsoring and drug dealing?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
2012
#86 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:51:25 AM
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Sometimes when life throws you lemons you have to decide to make lemonade or a lemon twist cocktail as the other choice is giving up.
Even God used the evil Saul who later became the biggest evangelist for Christ. So what is this that we can't even try? Middle class holds the most power of any society, it's the heart of the society. Think of yourself and the knowledge you're sitting on helplessly. Who are you waiting for to change your society? Anyway as the good Mr. Henry Ford said, whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.

BBI will solve it
:)
Rahatupu
#87 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:29:23 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
2012 wrote:
The truth is Waititu and Sonko are the best Governor and Senator for the majority in Nairobi. We could debate this all day from the confort of our office desks to nowhere.
Now I don't think these individuals' intentions are to destroy Nairobi, we still have the power. The two of them can't come up with ideas on how to run Nairobi, you could help by putting together policy papers and lobbying them to implement!
I really hate bare complaining and doing nothing. The poor have the majority vote but the middleclass, you and me are where the ideas are so let's do something.

The biggest impact the middleclass has in Kenya is knowledge. When and if the middleclass start talking to people upcountry and explaining to them things then things will change. That I have to agree,we don't share the knowledge but we judge them when they take action.



I think the duo espouses the best implementers of all those policies, plans and ideas that have been on government/city hall shelves for decades. I see in them zeal and ambition to succeed against great odds.
Rahatupu
#88 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:42:04 PM
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What is to be done?

The so called "mido class" in our case has failed to lead the movement of the masses against the oppression by the elites in collaboration with neocolonialists and their attendant domination of all aspects of life economy, political and social. We have failed to espouse the ideals of such great leaders as Lenin:

Revolutionaries, however, lagged behind this upsurge, both in their “theories” and in their activity; they failed to establish a constant and continuous organisation capable of leading the whole movement.

To the great poor urban masses, Yt2 and Sonks are their Lenin, they expouse albeit in a crude manner the daily struggles of the hoi poloi.
tycho
#89 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:11:47 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
What is to be done?

The so called "mido class" in our case has failed to lead the movement of the masses against the oppression by the elites in collaboration with neocolonialists and their attendant domination of all aspects of life economy, political and social. We have failed to espouse the ideals of such great leaders as Lenin:

Revolutionaries, however, lagged behind this upsurge, both in their “theories” and in their activity; they failed to establish a constant and continuous organisation capable of leading the whole movement.

To the great poor urban masses, Yt2 and Sonks are their Lenin, they expouse albeit in a crude manner the daily struggles of the hoi poloi.


Revolution doesn't need a Lenin. In fact, it is Lenin who needed revolution!

The problem is the distinction of class. The middle class as an idea has collapsed! Trying to keep it, even behind Sonko or Yt2, is counterrevolution.
Wakanyugi
#90 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:11:58 PM
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Democracy, when fairly practiced, is a numbers game and Waititu and Sonko have this mastered to a t.

I don't even know why Sonko bothers with the media – most of the people who will vote for him don't have TV and the watching ‘middle class,’ who are deriding him, will largely, not vote.

Therein lies Wanjiru and Kidero's dilemma. They appeal to an economically powerful but numerically weak demographic; one that will not take them to parliament - lucky that it is numbers that matter, not share holdings or bank balances or years of study.

Think of it as the poor man’s revenge.

As long as the so called elite insist that politics is a dirty game (in other words, beneath them) then the Waititus and Sonkos of this land will continue to rule.

Not that this is a bad thing, in my opinion.

Those who think that status equals wisdom are well advised to read the story of Azdak, the poor man’s judge, in Bertolt Brecht's "The Caucasian Chalk Circle."
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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