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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:I watched him last night. He's still my guy yet he's not from my tribe. But I'm not sure about the choice he made about the deputy. PK might start spending more time marketing his deputy instead of focusing on the campaigns. apart from the fact that Osumba is a greenhorn, I think the choice was ok since PK had no much choice. But they need to improve on their mass-appeal. A catchy Swa tagline would do now that Tunawesmake is for the urban grp.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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McReggae wrote:alma wrote:Mimi bado iko PK. It will be the only vote I'll make other than my ward rep. Hizo zingine spoilt vote. They will not be spoilt if you don't cast them!!! Alma i thought you are waititu sonko guy ? I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Does PK need to be president to implement his ideas?
If he needs the presidency, then his ideas are old fashioned.
For example, if PK says there are foreign investors and domestic investors; and that he'd show preference for domestic ones, then he is clearly misguided! He's not awake to globalization and the cyberspace. One should now be able to invest wherever he/she wants!
Politicians are there to do what the people want, and not vice versa.
In all honesty, do you believe there exists a single person who truly knows what the people need? How did he get this precious information? Information from the bureau of statistics?
Wazuans!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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tycho wrote:Does PK need to be president to implement his ideas?
If he needs the presidency, then his ideas are old fashioned.
For example, if PK says there are foreign investors and domestic investors; and that he'd show preference for domestic ones, then he is clearly misguided! He's not awake to globalization and the cyberspace. One should now be able to invest wherever he/she wants!
Politicians are there to do what the people want, and not vice versa.
In all honesty, do you believe there exists a single person who truly knows what the people need? How did he get this precious information? Information from the bureau of statistics?
Wazuans!
When you say PK's ideas are useless, please spare a moment to show us a better alternative. Again, I would be honoured to know from you how he can possibly implement the ideas if he is not president, or even a cabinet secretary. You think too hard till you get lost in the process. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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I am having a terrible season in matters politics this time around. I had long decided to vote with my head and not surname simply because of those running for the top seat only one or two meet my threshold. One of those was PK but in December he embarked on a series of brain explosion moments that lead to a ridiculous alliance and an unexplained choice of running mate.
After last night, I must admit he clawed 60% of the marks he had lost in my scale. From last night it was obvious that he is about the only candidate with a solid understanding of our problems and has realistic, pragmatic solutions to these problems. He is also the only one talking measurable timescales. The other candidates are not talking specifics in anything they are talking a lot of generalities. The travesty of our society is that we are at a point very few people want to relate to the specifics due to the premium we put on ethnic origin or our economic state of affairs.
Can't wait for presidential debate, and I hope they all turn up because PK will certainly take quite a number to the cleaners!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/11/2007 Posts: 1,680 Location: nairobi
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My preferred county rep lost by 36 votes, I still have his text...worse I can count 37 close pple who did not vote yet we do most of the panganga...YOUR ONE VOTE COUNTS.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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simonkabz wrote:tycho wrote:Does PK need to be president to implement his ideas?
If he needs the presidency, then his ideas are old fashioned.
For example, if PK says there are foreign investors and domestic investors; and that he'd show preference for domestic ones, then he is clearly misguided! He's not awake to globalization and the cyberspace. One should now be able to invest wherever he/she wants!
Politicians are there to do what the people want, and not vice versa.
In all honesty, do you believe there exists a single person who truly knows what the people need? How did he get this precious information? Information from the bureau of statistics?
Wazuans!
When you say PK's ideas are useless, please spare a moment to show us a better alternative. Again, I would be honoured to know from you how he can possibly implement the ideas if he is not president, or even a cabinet secretary. You think too hard till you get lost in the process. The idea that a person or an entity can anticipate other people's needs, and that this person should have powers to execute his ideas for the good of all is faulty. And this, has been the gist of my argument. It is not only undemocratic, as it violate's individual sovereignty, but is also grossly inefficient, and ineffective. First, there are high agency costs, effects of lazy monopoly, inclination to class and tribal discrimination, corruption . . . in a nutshell, this idea is what ails us at the moment. If we are operating in a free and globalized market, then individual needs cannot be aggregated, and neither can they be anticipated. They can only be expressed and then met in market activity. Thus government's role is to ensure the market runs unhindered. That is, the sovereign individual says, and it happens, while the government keeps a conducive environment. PK's ideas are not necessarily 'useless' for we presently stand on them. But they are outmoded, and new ones are needed for this second republic. The whole fiscal system is being changed by the internet. Accountability and individual involvement in tax decisions is bound to rise. That is, people will only pay taxes for what they have approved, meaning, negotiation. Thus if there's an idea we should embrace is that of networked activity in negotiations and action. Does PK need the presidency to form a network? Of course not!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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tycho wrote:
The idea that a person or an entity can anticipate other people's needs, and that this person should have powers to execute his ideas for the good of all is faulty.
Does PK need the presidency to form a network? Of course not!
@tycho, Are you saying nobody knows the needs of most Kenyans? Don't they need a progressive state? Better infrastructure [roads,drainage,sewerage,telephony etc]? Don't they? What fault are you talking of? Please clarify. What do you mean PK doesn't need to be president to form a network? How could have Kibaki networked with the Chinese to bring forth Thika highway among other projects? Say it,it would be better for the world to of such a brilliant thought. Coz with that brilliant thought, we can get rid of all the world leaders. Or do we need them @tycho?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Amores wrote:McReggae wrote:alma wrote:Mimi bado iko PK. It will be the only vote I'll make other than my ward rep. Hizo zingine spoilt vote. They will not be spoilt if you don't cast them!!! Alma i thought you are waititu sonko guy ? Now, where would you get such an idea from? Just because I think he's better than Kasia doesn't mean I'd vote for people I think are doubtful in terms of integrity. It's just Kasia is just pathetic. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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mkeiyd wrote:tycho wrote:
The idea that a person or an entity can anticipate other people's needs, and that this person should have powers to execute his ideas for the good of all is faulty.
Does PK need the presidency to form a network? Of course not!
@tycho, Are you saying nobody knows the needs of most Kenyans? Don't they need a progressive state? Better infrastructure [roads,drainage,sewerage,telephony etc]? Don't they? What fault are you talking of? Please clarify. What do you mean PK doesn't need to be president to form a network? How could have Kibaki networked with the Chinese to bring forth Thika highway among other projects? Say it,it would be better for the world to of such a brilliant thought. Coz with that brilliant thought, we can get rid of all the world leaders. Or do we need them @tycho? Perhaps the meaning of the words 'state' and 'infrastructure' have been overused and their essence lost. So that when we speak of a 'progressive state' the picture that comes to mind is a world where most if not all enjoy what I may call a 'middle class' life, or a middle income economy. But the progressiveness of a state is in the efficiency and effectiveness of the relationships within a body politic and the freedoms enjoyed. So is infrastructure something that goes deeper than roads and gets into how people share and implement ideas. This is the most basic and yet the mother of what we often imply when we use the word 'infrastructure'. The 'fault' I am against is one of believing that the government, or a single person can be a substitute for communal conversation and come up with what is truly needed by the members of a community or State. This may have worked in the past, but it can't work anymore. People are now more connected and informed. And besides, governments have to cut on borrowing since they no longer have control on the economy. About networks, let me say that there are many network levels, and though international networks are useful, local ones are very vital. Local networks can rapidly increase disposable incomes, and overall market activity to the levels of even having the Chinese coming to ask for jobs from us. Finally, leadership is about 'doing the right thing' and where all or most are sovereign, leadership is decentralized, and is far from being hierarchical. Everyone is a leader.
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