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McReggae wrote:Ambition killed because of a surname, the Siaya issue was so different from the Ksm one!!!
.......would have been the 1st woman governor!!!! Is she married? Should have used another name...Like Ruth O Clifford Ferdinard. To me she looks quite competent.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Motomoto wrote:McReggae wrote:Ambition killed because of a surname, the Siaya issue was so different from the Ksm one!!!
.......would have been the 1st woman governor!!!! Is she married? Should have used another name...Like Ruth O Clifford Ferdinard. To me she looks quite competent. She has been black mailed, those men should have won fairly so sijui Odinga this Odinga that!!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Motomoto wrote:McReggae wrote:Ambition killed because of a surname, the Siaya issue was so different from the Ksm one!!!
.......would have been the 1st woman governor!!!! Is she married? Should have used another name...Like Ruth O Clifford Ferdinard. To me she looks quite competent. Ati Ruth Clifford.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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McReggae wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:McReggae wrote:Her courage and common sense is admirable, she has emerged bigger, people judged by her surname, campaigned on her at one time even ran out of campaign cash, I am proud of her! what? LOL: I meant to say she campaigned on her own without much financial support from others!!! Wait ,so she did not have mbesha for campaign ? MC you are 'njoking'!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2012 Posts: 180
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Robinhood wrote:McReggae wrote:1. Do RAO's siblings have rights, as Kenyan citizen, under our constitution to vie for elective positions?
2. Does RAO have a legal or constitutional right to block his siblings from vying for elective posts just because he is a Presidential candidate?
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3. Who has to power to decide on whether someone gets an elective position or not? Is a single vote out of several able to block a candidate?
4. Do you know what 'lobbying for enough' votes mean?
5. If I do not vote for a particular candidate, does it mean that that particular candidate that I do not vote for will loose?
Mcr, the stuff you are saying is nonsense and you know it. While RAO's siblings have rights, if too many of them try for elective posts, it only seems like they are trying to take advantage of their bro's position in ODM and simply breeds resentment. You then have guys shouting TNA slogans in ODMs stronghold! It is worth thinking about and please shove aside the constitution blah blah! Oh, and I support RAO Me agree with Robinhood. Mcr knows deep that even the law has its spirit side & its letter side. In this case the spirit of RAO's siblings' rights is what is not adding up! Without being offensive to anyone; An analogy is given of why legally a male "gyna" is doc but morally he cant treat his mum/siz etc. Infact whatever is morally right can never be passed to be illegal whereas NOT all LAWS can be passed as morally right. Eagles don't flock, you have to find them one at a time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Someone mentioned that Raila's problem are his siblings. It doesn't take a genius to see why. Cousin, governor, cousin, mp, cousin, senator...You may have rights to run, but don't forget that we also have the right to think that one family is usurping power. If they were performers we would not really be talking about it. But how many times will Oburu close his eyes "in meditation", in front of TV cameras before people notice? How many lame statements will cousin Midiwo make and expect no one to complain? Hii ni mambo ya kujiletea. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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It should not be an issue so long as that area is known to have democracy in the party. But cases of 'rgging from above' are common and beneficiaries include James Orengo, the yesteryear champion of democracy. Could be an issue of bottled up anger. A relative of Uhuru just won the women rep TNA ticket in Kiambu and no one is talking about it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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Robinhood wrote:McReggae wrote:1. Do RAO's siblings have rights, as Kenyan citizen, under our constitution to vie for elective positions?
2. Does RAO have a legal or constitutional right to block his siblings from vying for elective posts just because he is a Presidential candidate?
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3. Who has to power to decide on whether someone gets an elective position or not? Is a single vote out of several able to block a candidate?
4. Do you know what 'lobbying for enough' votes mean?
5. If I do not vote for a particular candidate, does it mean that that particular candidate that I do not vote for will loose?
Mcr, the stuff you are saying is nonsense and you know it. While RAO's siblings have rights, if too many of them try for elective posts, it only seems like they are trying to take advantage of their bro's position in ODM and simply breeds resentment. You then have guys shouting TNA slogans in ODMs stronghold! It is worth thinking about and please shove aside the constitution blah blah! Oh, and I support RAO @McR here RAO n his siblings made a blunder. N thats the truth. Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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alma wrote:Someone mentioned that Raila's problem are his siblings. It doesn't take a genius to see why. Cousin, governor, cousin, mp, cousin, senator...You may have rights to run, but don't forget that we also have the right to think that one family is usurping power.
If they were performers we would not really be talking about it. But how many times will Oburu close his eyes "in meditation", in front of TV cameras before people notice? How many lame statements will cousin Midiwo make and expect no one to complain?
Hii ni mambo ya kujiletea.  Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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Good. We don't need a family government or is it a Government that is a family business?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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Angelica _ann wrote:McReggae wrote:Her courage and common sense is admirable, she has emerged bigger, people judged by her surname, campaigned on her at one time even ran out of campaign cash, I am proud of her! what? @McR, hapo umenimalisa! wewe kwisa! Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 1,178
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I don't understand something. She is that competent and has never seen it fit to vie or MP? People are just getting wiser by the day, from Kisumu to uasin gishu to nyeri to kabete, the voters power is usurping the status quo. Could this explain why MC reggae had gone mute over the nomination period?
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