alma wrote:@Loles I've not done an about turn. I'm still on point. Many of us here know each other. And wazua has placed an "illegal" note in their privacy policy that they will corporate with "the law". So my warning was to my brethren who once in a while attempt to go off the cliff.
Wazua basically has suggested that they will sell you out. So watch what you say here.
Wazua owner being based in Kenya has to obey Kenyan laws. There is nothing wrong with their cooperating with the law as long as they do not break any law. Has it ever occurred to you that Kenyan cops would now merely go to a magistrate and on showing cause get a warrant/court order for Wazua to divulge the details of their members? And what would be illegal with Wazua doing that? FYI they already do that to freeze accounts in several instances and Ndemo impresses me as someone who would ensure that at least that due process is followed. So while Facebook and other foreign based companies might not grant the information (and the Kenyan police might not have the resources and capacity to pursue orders from US courts) the Kenyan companies have no such luxuries. Still such multinational companies have had at times to conform with local laws, granted those have involved big markets like China, India etc.
alma wrote:
You do know that though the US can bring down al kaeda hate mongers online forums, they don't. In fact, they join those forums and gather more intel. Google has been known to join scammers and black hat web master sites just to gather intel. Instead of shutting down the sites and locking up the owners, they join, engage and learn something they would never have known.
It's better than just taking 18 yr olds to court. While the real hate mongers are probably running for one office or another in 2013.
There is something they call freedom of speech in the USA which has a major say in that. Sure the CIA may render you wherever they want but that may be a resource hog if it was applied broadly applied to the hate mongers.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)