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Equity Bank on personal loans
McReggae
#41 Posted : Friday, May 08, 2009 2:52:00 PM
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Mukiha.....you made that so clear man!!!!

Make money.....then you will enjoy all the fine things in life!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
nanfor
#42 Posted : Friday, May 08, 2009 4:03:00 PM
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Mukiha,

I have created mortgage products all my life. So if you think its good for you,then good for you.

Please Mukiha,I will tell you again,if you want to have an easy life with your mortgage,take a traditional fixed mortgage. Option A is not one. I didn't know that 1 hour on the net can make someone a genius. Go read again. I have left you a link at the end of this article.

I would also like you to take a calculator and figure in what happens to your mortgage if you fall behind in only one payment. Just one Mukiha.

So do your research,get a traditional fixed rate mortgage and your mortgage will never ever be a headache to you or yours. But different strokes for different fellows.

rule of thumb - calculate the total interest you will have paid at the end of the loan term. Then compare with others.

Now to better understand what you are talking about instead of telling someone who creates mortgage products for a living go to this site and read a bit.

then come with a calculator we can discuss.

I will say it for the last time. It has been proven over and over again that for most people a traditional fixed mortgage is good for the borrower. Other types are only good for the lender.
Oh,by the way,you can also increase the principal paid in a traditional mortgage so don't get all orgasmic about it.
nanfor
#43 Posted : Friday, May 08, 2009 4:41:00 PM
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After you have read that article,I hope u understand,Kenya is not special. I can create a mortgage product with all those types of mortgages together with different interest rates in one product. The interest rate can also be broken down further to daily,montly,weekly,yearly or the full loan period.

Now Mukiha,I just want you to tell me a mortgage product in Kenya that plays no games but only offers one payment through the term of the loan. Remember that in all loan products,you can always increase you repayment. but can you do that in kenya without attracting a fee? Tell the truth Mukiha. How much did you pay as early payment penalties? I am actually beginning to doubt your story.

Why a traditional mortgage? You want to know that your payments are manageable even if fired,you can increase your payment rate,and you will never be at the mercy of your lender if he suddenly decides to increase rates especially if you miss a payment. Before you hate on Islamic banking,pay them a visit. So far,that is all I would consider in Kenya.

It is interesting that you fail to mention what the ramifications are to the borrower are when he pays too early,is late in payment etc. I am 100% sure that Kenyan banks load these in their products. So please Mukiha,don't lie to people about the best mortgage product in the world as if it was made in Kenya. There is nothing special about the Kenyan product or option A. Only that the bank makes more.

That is all I will say on this topic.
MoKenya
#44 Posted : Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:25:00 AM
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Nanfor,

I think you need to take a breather and realize you made your point long ago and you are merely repeating the same thing. When you write on this forum,you are not just addressing Mukiha,but a lot of other people.

If you keep repeating yourself,you sound desperate to make your point,however meaningful it is.
mukiha
#45 Posted : Monday, May 11, 2009 5:06:00 AM
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@nanfor:

Call me a liar all you want....but the truth is that I did not pay a single cent extra for making early payments!

You are right: if the borrower misses one payment on my kind of mortgage,there will be additional interest charged.....here is the demo:

In my case at the beginning of the second month,the balance was sh2,238,125. If I missed the second installment this what would have happened:

The bank would have calculated the 1.25% interest on sh2,238,125 = sh27,977.

This is interest added to the principle to give a new total balance of sh2,266,102

Thus at the beiging of the third month,the balance will actually be higher than the original amount borrowed!

The interest on the third month will now be sh28,326 instead of sh28,083 .... sh243 more.

To avoid this kind of thing from happening,one should always strive to pay a little bit extra.....I always advised people to take a smaller mortgage than what they can afford/qualify for...and then to pay the full ammount that they can afford (see my recommendation below)

But if you take a mortgage and you are unable to make the second payment,then you were not serious about it in the first place! You should terminate that contract immediately and go back to paying rent!!!

Finally,I must reiterate two points: banks don't GIVE loans,the LEND them,and the money must be paid back....with interest (even in sharia banks....they just call it different name!!!!!)
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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