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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 546 Location: Garissa
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alma wrote:Sure wrote:
And that is exactly the point. I don't believe Uhuru used Mungiki or whatever they say he used. And if Mungiki causes shivers in your bones, go on, avoid any party associated with the group. That will be a sign of political matuarity.
By the way, what is Maina Njenga doing in Cord Alliance? Haiya.
On the other hand, it all depends on where you stand.
The more I read your posts the more I see the folly in TNA having a social media campaign that incorporates immature adults who can say beheading is collateral damage. Where on this forum have you seen me supporting CORD? The search button young one can be used to do simple research. To educate you a bit. I stand for electing leaders who aren't tainted especially being accused of killing other people for political expediency. If any of your leaders falls in that category, I will not vote for them. @Sure I believe you have every right to vote for anyone you wish. After all the Jubilee rallying call is that voting for suspects is good for the country as long the majority says so. Heck, lets go to Kamiti and release everyone to run. But if there is one thing you won't get away with is unfortunate, sad and despicable arguments. Mungiki was a horrible time for the Kikuyu. A shameful time for the Kikuyu. A time when the Kikuyu were the shame of the earth. You supporting them here or anywhere for that matter, in any way shape or form will attract the shetani you have been running away from. Go home and get some beauty sleep because clearly your ugly is showing up today. I fear for your friends if they have at times to live with some of your arguments. Ni kali sana mpaka I wonder how you relate with some of your folks but thats none of my business. Where did I say I support Mungiki? I detest them with a passion. Are you now confortable with them in Cord ama something changed along the way? I did not say you support Cord. Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 546 Location: Garissa
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tycho wrote:josiah33 wrote:You will be surprised to know that the kikuyu peasants too think Uhuru is the Warrior Prince who defended his own people when they were being persecuted. He endeared himself to them and it doesn't matter whether the ICC is aiming at his jugular. Ever wondered why it's so hard to shake off the notion that Rao has got everything to do with Uhuru's predicaments and the ICC case in some quarters? @Sure, you have done well to present the warrior prince argument to wazua. It is long over due, given that it is the moral bedrock of Uhuru's resistance to the Hague. But what is Ruto's justification then? And why is his justification compatible to Uhuru's? Or is the Jubilee resistance out of moral order? Those who led us to crashes have the answer to solving the problem. One, they can be locked in prison for life or they can bring back the same sanity they destroyed. If that is the case, let it be. If there are three people who know exactly what happened in 2007 to 2008, it must be them plus vitendawili. Kubaff might have been caught unawares but he takes the blame of ommission. If the real culprits go scott free, they can always do their heinous crime again knowing they will blame it on someone. Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 546 Location: Garissa
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tycho wrote:
So far @Sure has done nothing wrong. If anything he/she is helping us understand the figures we are coming up with in 'the game of numbers'.
We are aware that Uhuru and C. have significant support, why shouldn't we probe this support?
Sure has presented herself, let us treat her well.
Thank you sir. Hope someone will start a thread on why they support Tuju or Martha or Kaminchu. Abusive language will take us no where. Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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Sure wrote:alma wrote:Sure wrote:
And that is exactly the point. I don't believe Uhuru used Mungiki or whatever they say he used. And if Mungiki causes shivers in your bones, go on, avoid any party associated with the group. That will be a sign of political matuarity.
By the way, what is Maina Njenga doing in Cord Alliance? Haiya.
On the other hand, it all depends on where you stand.
The more I read your posts the more I see the folly in TNA having a social media campaign that incorporates immature adults who can say beheading is collateral damage. Where on this forum have you seen me supporting CORD? The search button young one can be used to do simple research. To educate you a bit. I stand for electing leaders who aren't tainted especially being accused of killing other people for political expediency. If any of your leaders falls in that category, I will not vote for them. @Sure I believe you have every right to vote for anyone you wish. After all the Jubilee rallying call is that voting for suspects is good for the country as long the majority says so. Heck, lets go to Kamiti and release everyone to run. But if there is one thing you won't get away with is unfortunate, sad and despicable arguments. Mungiki was a horrible time for the Kikuyu. A shameful time for the Kikuyu. A time when the Kikuyu were the shame of the earth. You supporting them here or anywhere for that matter, in any way shape or form will attract the shetani you have been running away from. Go home and get some beauty sleep because clearly your ugly is showing up today. I fear for your friends if they have at times to live with some of your arguments. Ni kali sana mpaka I wonder how you relate with some of your folks but thats none of my business. Where did I say I support Mungiki? I detest them with a passion. Are you now confortable with them in Cord ama something changed along the way? I did not say you support Cord. Apparently, he is now a reformer and forward thinking Kikuyu seen in this light: Quote:Pogressive Kikuyus like: Reverend Timothy Njoya; former Attorney General Charles Njonjo; Spokesperson of “Kikuyus for Change” Ngunjiri Wambugu; MPs Gitobu Imanyara, Mithika Lunturi, and Alex Mburi; former MPs Wanyiri Kihoro and Paul Muite; former Mungiki leader Maina Njenga; billionaire Kikuyu businessman, Stanley Githunguri; musician Eric Wainaina; former Chairman of the Kenya Human Rights Commission Maina Kiai; Chairman of the Kenya Red Alliance (KRA), Martin Ngatia, Coordinator of the Sweden-based “Making a Difference” Joseph Munene together with Kikuyu Academics, Civil Society leaders, Church groups and a growing list of forward-thinking Kikuyus have all seen through the GEMA smokescreen and came out openly to oppose Kikuyu ruling class agenda of political domination of other ethnic groups in Kenya. http://kenyastockholm.co...e-tna-of-uhuru-kenyatta/
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 546 Location: Garissa
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simonkabz wrote:
1. Are you confirming UK's involvement in the PEV?
2. Are you comparing Khama to UK?
3. Kindly refer to number 2 then tell us, are u out of your freaking mind?
1. Am not confirming anything. Infact, Uhuru is innocent until proven guilty. My suspicion is that he was framed up so that some thugs can take over this country by using lies and propaganda to achieve their ends. The problem is, if he is found innocent after passing the 2013 uchaguzi, who will compensate him? Will those who framed him up be put behind bars or what will happen. Kuna maswali zingine unajiuliza and when you see no answers, you have to outsmart the wicked and evil. Am not comparing Khama with UK. Am saying we need a warrior who can tell the IMF suckers off. Vodafone just sucked our 11billion for moving my 20k and your 80k from your fon to your boyfriend or grandfather using M-pesa. What input did they spend on that platform? Peanuts. Tangaza Pesa is coming up strong. Lets turn to indigenous solutions to solve our problems. Lets not suck up to mzungus as if we cannot see the folly of doing so. I hope I have not lost you. Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 546 Location: Garissa
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bigbossman wrote:wajuguna wrote:Most of these demonising of @Sure is completely overblown and nonsensical. Most of these fellows just have a rabid despise for UK for a whole lot of varying reasons and any point of convergence for the hate is an opportunity they wont waste.
Sometime I wonder, if the clashes started like they did, for whatever reason, and they were clearly directed at a section of humanity, what was such humanity expected to do, Sit on their bums and face the mountains? We are not in heaven yet and nobody need to be an intellectual to acknowledge this. Sure! some people were being hit hard and the police seemed inadequate. It was total madness and i don't know what would have happened if Annan didn't broker some ceasefire. Not that i admire the Ghanaian but at least his presence here at that time brought some sanity in our country. Kofi did not bring sanity in this country. Hiroshima and Nagasaki did the trick. I still don't get it, that when the kiuks hit back, it was wrong. But when kaleos and jangs were hacking kiuks to death, it was okay. Explain that to me in simple language so that I can understand. Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 546 Location: Garissa
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bigbossman wrote:Just a honest question-who among the list of contenders to the throne fits the bill for a President that a real intelligent and right thinking wazuan would vote for? @Bigbossman, an Alliance of Peter and Tuju backed by Martha, Kiyapi and maybe new faces on the political scene would make the most ideal choice for sanity to finally prevail on this great nation of ours. However, they do not have the masses behind them to ensure they win at the ballot. So, that remains my wishful thinking but I have to be real. Out of the two choices available, we have to contend with who is more evil than the other. That is the card reality has dealt us. That is why am for a third force that we can rally around and if they don't make it this time, they will have a better chance the next time round. Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/14/2012 Posts: 201 Location: nairobi
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Sure wrote:bigbossman wrote:wajuguna wrote:Most of these demonising of @Sure is completely overblown and nonsensical. Most of these fellows just have a rabid despise for UK for a whole lot of varying reasons and any point of convergence for the hate is an opportunity they wont waste.
Sometime I wonder, if the clashes started like they did, for whatever reason, and they were clearly directed at a section of humanity, what was such humanity expected to do, Sit on their bums and face the mountains? We are not in heaven yet and nobody need to be an intellectual to acknowledge this. Sure! some people were being hit hard and the police seemed inadequate. It was total madness and i don't know what would have happened if Annan didn't broker some ceasefire. Not that i admire the Ghanaian but at least his presence here at that time brought some sanity in our country. Kofi did not bring sanity in this country. Hiroshima and Nagasaki did the trick. I still don't get it, that when the kiuks hit back, it was wrong. But when kaleos and jangs were hacking kiuks to death, it was okay. Explain that to me in simple language so that I can understand. All i was saying is that it was sad that Kikuyus were being hit hard. Matters got even worse when the kikuyu decided to revenge(not that it's wrong to defend yourself). But if the war between kikuyu and the rest were to continue, kenya would have disintegrated and continued fighting wouldn't have brought sanity to our country- at least not when things were so thick- maybe afterward. And that's where Annan comes in. He might be a pain but lets give credit where it's due and i really don't care for him now that he has turned Prefect-in any case i think he has outlived his usefulness. LIFE IS SO GOOD
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 546 Location: Garissa
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Lolest! wrote:@sure,s reasoning reasonates with the average Kikuyu voter-the majority. The ones at the market selling mitumba or cars or somewhere in Njabini with their warus. The reason UK is this popular is PEV. He proved to be different from the laid-back Kibaki. To many, the crimes he is suspected of are the same that saved them! Infact, some would rather burn their vote with him than listen to arguments on GDP growth etc. The funny part is, they have approved his union with the man accused of planning the killings of their kin. Why dont they take offense? Probably coz they believe RAO was the CinC of the anti-GEMA forces. Then WSR, like their hero is facing ICC charges. Enough said. Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Sure wrote:Lolest! wrote:@sure,s reasoning reasonates with the average Kikuyu voter-the majority. The ones at the market selling mitumba or cars or somewhere in Njabini with their warus. The reason UK is this popular is PEV. He proved to be different from the laid-back Kibaki. To many, the crimes he is suspected of are the same that saved them! Infact, some would rather burn their vote with him than listen to arguments on GDP growth etc. The funny part is, they have approved his union with the man accused of planning the killings of their kin. Why dont they take offense? Probably coz they believe RAO was the CinC of the anti-GEMA forces. Then WSR, like their hero is facing ICC charges. Enough said. I like PK, his policies, image ...however it is clear that to command a huge popular vote will be very difficult, as I learned listening to guys when I went for Xmass ... If PK will not get to the house on the hill then I hope to God the Wanjiku on the side of CORD trounces the Wanjiku on the side of Jubilee, and CORD hands over these 2 opportunists. They have been indicted of crimes against humanity. Regardless of the motivation, from a matter of law, what they have been accused of is inexcusable. Now many like to aim at the ICC, accusing it of being a kangaroo court controlled by the West. Perhaps they are right. What I know is because of ICC no one else will dare organize or command widespread murder and violence like the 2007 PEV. Think of the ICC like a crude policeman, with not very well-honed skills of maintaining law and order, but the presence of that policeman deters criminals from raping and hacking you to pieces in broad daylight. We need the ICC, at least for now, because we are completely under the heel of the rich and powerful
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