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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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Quote:Democracy needs ignorant people, says science
You might think that democracies work best when people care and know about the key issues. But a new study argues that for a democracy to function at all, you need lots of ignorant people blindly siding with the majority.
That's the argument put forward by Princeton researcher Iain Couzin and his team, who make the argument that a fully informed electorate would collapse into an unworkable hodgepodge of minority factions or risk being dominated by a single forceful minority group. But if most voters don't really think about the issues, they will just tend to side with whoever is popular, allowing majority rule to continue and democracy to keep functioning. Yeah, you might want to check your last shreds of political idealism at the door for this one. http://io9.com/5869088/d...rant-people-says-science
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Wanjiku rules no matter how foolish she is.
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the more Wanjikus you have on your side (Jubilee), the better for you! A winning strategy as others whine. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/26/2011 Posts: 23
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Angelica _ann wrote:the more Wanjikus you have on your side (Jubilee), the better for you! A winning strategy as others whine. You cannot afford to ignore wanjiku.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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It is not possible for any one person, or a minority to possess perfect knowledge and vision of what is. Neither does a majority have this capacity.
So Democracy is an attempt by the partially blind to make wise decisions through negotiations, and voting.
Even if Wanjiku gets a PhD in political science she'd still be the average voter.
The problem is not about knowledge, it is about cultural values.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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Don't be lied to- most voters are ignorant and this is not just in Kenya, though i think we are alittle too ignorant. Even in the US, as this person puts it, ignorance is pervasive. Quote:many won't learn the most rudimentary facts about the people running for office and the policy issues they will have to address. Some of us will jump to believe any half-baked rumor or stereotype that confirms our prejudices.
We'll vote to reward or punish incumbents for events that they have nothing to do with. Some voters won't even find out the names of the people running for many offices. In short, the citizenry as a whole will carry out what looks like a giant cartoon parody of democracy.
Our form of government is one of those inventions that often look much better in concept than in practice. We see ourselves as a sober, enlightened people who jealously guard the national ideals and voting prerogatives for which our forebears died. We trust that our sound principles and attention to current events will yield good government in the end.
But we rarely live up to our self-image. There is a consistently large gap between what people need to know and what they actually do know.
Most think the federal budget is too big, but the only program a majority wants to cut is foreign aid -- which makes up about 1 percent of spending. Voters think taxes are too high but don't realize they've been reduced. One reason Americans supported the invasion of Iraq was that most of them had the erroneous idea that Saddam Hussein carried out the 9/11 attacks.
It's not just the issues of the day that flummox people. Most Americans don't know the three branches of government. They don't know the name of the person representing them in Congress. The most concerted efforts to inform voters won't work unless voters have good reason to learn. And they don't.
After all, a person who learns a lot in order to vote intelligently has almost zero chance of changing the outcome of any election. Aside from the feeling of virtue it may confer, it's an irrational indulgence. Ignorance, by contrast, is perfectly rational.
"Political knowledge levels have risen little if at all over the last several decades, despite major increases in education and the availability of information," writes George Mason University law professor Ilya Somin in a draft book, "Democracy and Political Ignorance." "Demand for information, not supply, is the main constraint on political learning in a world where most people are rationally ignorant about politics."
This knowledge void is hard to square with our belief in democracy -- which relies on ordinary people to 1) figure out what the government should do and 2) elect candidates who will implement their preferences.
Their depressing failure is enough to raise doubts about the validity of government by the people. Of course, the founders of the American republic had plenty of those doubts. That's why they built in checks on popular control, particularly restrictions on who may participate in elections.
But we're not going back to limited suffrage, and it's hard to believe the country would be better off if most people were barred from voting. Even an ill-informed electorate will fare better if it has a role in choosing its leaders -- just as patients gain from being allowed to choose their doctors, despite not having been to medical school. Can widespread political ignorance be cured? Probably not -- though, as Somin argues, we can minimize its effects through simple, transparent institutions and decentralized power, which reduce the amount of knowledge voters need. But however serious the flaws of popular government, we really have no alternative.
Democracy may produce fiscal bloat and political gridlock, but it doesn't produce Saddam Hussein or Kim Jong-il. It's not an assurance of the best outcomes. It is, however, a pretty good protection against the worst.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/31/2011 Posts: 90
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"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise." --and that's wanjiku's working principle.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/14/2012 Posts: 201 Location: nairobi
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shygal wrote: "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise." --and that's wanjiku's working principle. Maybe there is power in ignorance-on some level 'too much knowledge' could destroy our will to act. Sometimes if we entertain all the negative possibilities that could befall us before taking action, we would never take action. Disclaimer: This is just an opinion and should not be construed to mean that i support Wanjiku experimenting with an unknown future or daring the West and calling their bluff by electing international crimes suspects(whatever that is). LIFE IS SO GOOD
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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bigbossman wrote:shygal wrote: "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise." --and that's wanjiku's working principle. Maybe there is power in ignorance-on some level 'too much knowledge' could destroy our will to act. Sometimes if we entertain all the negative possibilities that could befall us before taking action, we would never take action. Disclaimer: This is just an opinion and should not be construed to mean that i support Wanjiku experimenting with an unknown future or daring the West and calling their bluff by electing international crimes suspects(whatever that is). The voice of the Wanjikus is the voice of God. Leadership comes from God. God is just. God is all knowing and all powerful. Thus democracy must and can only be safeguarded by God consciousness. It cannot be otherwise.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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Quote:Why are democracies so vibrant even when composed of uninformed citizens? According to a new study led by the ecologist Iain Couzin at Princeton, this collective ignorance is an essential feature of democratic governments, not a bug. His research suggests that voters with weak political preferences help to prevent clusters of extremists from dominating the political process. Their apathy keeps us safe.
To show this, Dr. Couzin experimented on a rather unlikely set of subjects: fish. Many different species, such as schooling fish and flocking birds, survive by forming a consensus, making collective decisions without splintering apart. To do so, these creatures are constantly forced to conduct their own improvised elections.....................................
Of course, many political scientists have criticized this extrapolation from golden shiners to democratic government, noting that not all independent voters are ignorant—some are simply moderate—and that a minority doesn't always represent an extreme view.
Nevertheless, this research helps to explain the importance of indifference in a partisan age. If every voter was well-informed and highly opinionated, then the most passionate minority would dominate decision-making. There would be no democratic consensus—just clusters of stubborn fanatics, attempting to out-shout the other side. Hitler's rise is the ultimate parable here: Though the Nazi party failed to receive a majority of the votes in the 1933 German election, it was able to quickly intimidate the opposition and pass tyrannical laws.
So the next time a poll reveals the ignorance of the voting public, remember those fish. It's the people who don't know very much who make democracy possible.
http://online.wsj.com/ar...4577140713653796308.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:shygal wrote: "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise." --and that's wanjiku's working principle. Maybe there is power in ignorance-on some level 'too much knowledge' could destroy our will to act. Sometimes if we entertain all the negative possibilities that could befall us before taking action, we would never take action. Disclaimer: This is just an opinion and should not be construed to mean that i support Wanjiku experimenting with an unknown future or daring the West and calling their bluff by electing international crimes suspects(whatever that is). The voice of the Wanjikus is the voice of God. Leadership comes from God. God is just. God is all knowing and all powerful. Thus democracy must and can only be safeguarded by God consciousness. It cannot be otherwise. @SufficientlyP
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