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hisah
#221 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:19:49 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
With the demand, why is the price stuck at 5.05? Xmass season?


@Mukiri this stock has rallied from 2.80bob back to its IPO price in 2012... Time for it to take a breather!

Unless the market P/E goes up i don't see safcon rallying beyond here.. (market P/E likely to go up if elections go smoothly)

BAT, ARM & EABL are on expensive P/E than mpesa bank are still or have posted all time highs. Looking at the MSCI KE index chart, it's now bullish after 5yrs and I expect foreigners to keep up the bid pressure. Are we going to see P/Es above 20 like back in 2006/2007? Only time will tell. This however is dependent on election outcome.
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hisah
#222 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 2:25:55 AM
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Poor voice quality by mpesa bank - http://www.businessdaily...6/-/do5cl1/-/index.html

I wonder how much the revenues would spike if these inefficiencies are fixed consistently to seal the revenue leaks.
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mwekez@ji
#223 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 11:09:18 AM
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Jamani wrote:
Kenyans so far have saved over Sh150 million through M-Shwari and loans currently standing at over Sh50 million with healthy repayment trends already noted.
M-Shwari


guru267 wrote:
A loan to deposit ratio of 30% is more than ideal for unsecured lending products! Looks like another hit for safcon has emerged through M-shwari!

Applause


Can the deposits be lent out to non-m’swari products and safaricom still benefit from the ensuing profits. I think a loan to deposit ratio of 30% it too low and more juice can be squeezed from the deposits
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youcan'tstopusnow
#224 Posted : Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:24:33 AM
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Did Kenya win or lose
Internet calls battle?
http://www.businessdaily.../-/vwo47gz/-/index.html

@Jamani, what are your thoughts? What effect would signing the treaty have on Kenyan telcos, if any?
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hisah
#225 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2012 6:21:45 AM
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Safaricom loses first round of M-Shwari row with Faulu - http://www.businessdaily...2/-/hbrfyw/-/index.html

KE courts are interesting this year. Btw since Faulu didn't patent this idea that they claim was theirs, what is the case? So far the NDA alone can't win this case! Me thinks this is just a Kopa Chapaa awareness stunt. Cheeky marketing...
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sparkly
#226 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2012 6:51:18 AM
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hisah wrote:
Safaricom loses first round of M-Shwari row with Faulu - http://www.businessdaily...2/-/hbrfyw/-/index.html

KE courts are interesting this year. Btw since Faulu didn't patent this idea that they claim was theirs, what is the case? So far the NDA alone can't win this case! Me thinks this is just a Kopa Chapaa awareness stunt. Cheeky marketing...

Bad reporting by BD, IMO. Safaricom has not lost anything. By refusing to refer the case to the Industrial Tribunal, the judge is saying there is no "industrial dispute", which works in Safaricom's favor. In the next para, the judge has refused to injunct safaricom from operating Mshwari, meaning faulu is not suffering any legal loss by mshwari's continued operation. This is clearly a win for safaricom. Safaricom will win this case, plus costs.
Else Faulu will win the case but get nominal damages like sh 5.
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obiero
#227 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2012 7:43:06 AM
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somethin in my gut tells me Safaricom actually did steal this idea
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#228 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2012 8:20:07 AM
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sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
Safaricom loses first round of M-Shwari row with Faulu - http://www.businessdaily...2/-/hbrfyw/-/index.html

KE courts are interesting this year. Btw since Faulu didn't patent this idea that they claim was theirs, what is the case? So far the NDA alone can't win this case! Me thinks this is just a Kopa Chapaa awareness stunt. Cheeky marketing...

Bad reporting by BD, IMO. Safaricom has not lost anything. By refusing to refer the case to the Industrial Tribunal, the judge is saying there is no "industrial dispute", which works in Safaricom's favor. In the next para, the judge has refused to injunct safaricom from operating Mshwari, meaning faulu is not suffering any legal loss by mshwari's continued operation. This is clearly a win for safaricom. Safaricom will win this case, plus costs.
Else Faulu will win the case but get nominal damages like sh 5.

#Word!
@SufficientlyP
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ChessMaster
#229 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2012 8:20:08 AM
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It doesn't matter.They got to the market first and branded it well.That will stick in the minds of consumers no matter what happens to the court case.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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hisah
#230 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2012 11:36:01 AM
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obiero wrote:
somethin in my gut tells me Safaricom actually did steal this idea

Murderers do get away with murder if the plaintiff side has shoddy arguments!

This M-Shwari case is such an example...

I still view this as marketing stunt (Kopa Chapaa) from the poor case representation by the plaintiff. They need to go back to the drawing board and learn how to draft industrial lawsuits.
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