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WHY sanctions by the west against kenya for electing UhuRuto might not work
gmg
#1 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 11:49:21 AM
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I have reviewed this issues and noted the way kenyan economy is the west will also suffer greatly by imposing sanctions to kenya as a state
reasons:
1. In the case of tourism its the European firms that benefit alot. The holiday packages are sold by European companies and payments made in UK and Europe.out of the 1 billion dollar income very little amount is left in Kenya.


2. Agricultural exports like tea for example unilever is the largest trader of kenyan tea so they will suffer coz of sanctions just as kenyans the same case applies to horticulture.

3. In banking their banks will also be hard hit??

I think the west will place restrictions on Uhuruto as individuals and avoid sanctions to the country?

WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ???????????????????????/
Money Whisperer
#2 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 11:50:59 AM
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We'll find out on March 11 when IEBC announces the results
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McReggae
#3 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 11:55:28 AM
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hahahahhaaa!!!!
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#4 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 12:06:27 PM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
We'll find out on March 11 when IEBC announces the results



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gadj
#5 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 12:13:31 PM
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We cant just wait and see Sudan is feeling the effect of sanctions despite it being a oil exporter, Kenya which depends on agricultural commodities & tourism will be badly affected. make no mistake the sanction cant be applied separately the people and the president are one cause the people elected the prezzo.
wajuguna
#6 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 2:11:48 PM
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All these santiona talk is meant to intimidate and put we, the 3rd world in 'our place'. Who said we cannot make our decisions and live with them. Are the 40m of us, or the percentage that vote in the majority so collectively dumb they must be whipped to line by the West? We should call their bluff, at least those of us who refuse to kiss butt.
josiah33
#7 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 4:29:25 PM
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wajuguna wrote:
All these santiona talk is meant to intimidate and put we, the 3rd world in 'our place'. Who said we cannot make our decisions and live with them. Are the 40m of us, or the percentage that vote in the majority so collectively dumb they must be whipped to line by the West? We should call their bluff, at least those of us who refuse to kiss butt.

I hope you are right about this.
simonkabz
#8 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 5:07:39 PM
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wajuguna wrote:
All these santiona talk is meant to intimidate and put we, the 3rd world in 'our place'. Who said we cannot make our decisions and live with them. Are the 40m of us, or the percentage that vote in the majority so collectively dumb they must be whipped to line by the West? We should call their bluff, at least those of us who refuse to kiss butt.



You have plagiarized mugabe's article which he wrote in 1980. nkt!
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simonkabz
#9 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 5:12:49 PM
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Who came up with this fallacy that cooperating with the west is kissing butt, but ignoring them is the recipe for national pride n sovereignty?? Ati Kenya can teach the west a lesson, n make them tow our line? Hahaha what a hopeless joke!!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
FRM2011
#10 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 7:44:33 PM
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@ simonkabz, by teaching the west a lesson, they mean lessons like how to lock up women and children in a church, douse them in petrol and burn them up, they mean tough lessons like how to set a roadblock in broad daylight, and hack to death anyone who speaks a different mother tongue. Clearly, the west needs to be taught such lessons by real african men, and what better way than to to put the professors of such advanced african studies in leadership positions.
mawinder
#11 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 8:03:59 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Who came up with this fallacy that cooperating with the west is kissing butt, but ignoring them is the recipe for national pride n sovereignty?? Ati Kenya can teach the west a lesson, n make them tow our line? Hahaha what a hopeless joke!!

recently we celebrated jamhuri day,now simon kabz,what is the significance of jamhuri day?which events led to kenya's independence?
quicksand
#12 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 9:50:21 PM
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mawinder wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Who came up with this fallacy that cooperating with the west is kissing butt, but ignoring them is the recipe for national pride n sovereignty?? Ati Kenya can teach the west a lesson, n make them tow our line? Hahaha what a hopeless joke!!

recently we celebrated jamhuri day,now simon kabz,what is the significance of jamhuri day?which events led to kenya's independence?

And what happened after independence? A new order of greed and avarice arrived where the new masters and their cronies carved up huge tracts of the country as their personal land. Those colonial chiefs benefited greatly as they manouvered to new positions of power and influence. Ironic, wouldnt you say? The Europeans didn't inflict this new order of exploitation that would dog us for the next 50 years; our fellow Africans did that. So, what was your question again?
simonkabz
#13 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 10:29:51 PM
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I would like wazuans esp those think that the west knows nothing to give history books a second chance. All this shit we are going thr they had it 100 times over. The American war of independence, the american civil war, The napoleonic wars, the french revolution, The unification of Germany, Unification of italy, the 30 years war, the ww1, the ww2, the cold war, The korean war, the vietnam war.....these guys have a very rich history, we can't even teach them on genocide n barbarity. We cannot fight them ECONOMICALLY, POLITICALLY, MILITARILY.....so all these bad mouthing n silly suspicions against the west is a load of crap. Many don't even seem to realise how delicate our economy is, n how much we live off the sweat of the white suckers. Defiance will be pure stupidity n suicide, n these guys beating bony chests here about how overconfident they are is pure hubris. Ati we can live on our own COMFORTABLY is a modern joke devoid of any serious mental input. Anybody who has been to class knows no country is an island. Independence is just a word that does not go beyond self governance. The world remains a global village whose intergration is getting complicated by the day, led by the west. The rich cooperater ala kagame vs the poor chest thumper ala Mugabe . Our choice..........
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
mkeiyd
#14 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 10:59:34 PM
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gmg wrote:
I have reviewed this issues and noted the way kenyan economy is the west will also suffer greatly by imposing sanctions to kenya as a state
reasons:
1. In the case of tourism its the European firms that benefit alot. The holiday packages are sold by European companies and payments made in UK and Europe.out of the 1 billion dollar income very little amount is left in Kenya.


2. Agricultural exports like tea for example unilever is the largest trader of kenyan tea so they will suffer coz of sanctions just as kenyans the same case applies to horticulture.

3. In banking their banks will also be hard hit??

I think the west will place restrictions on Uhuruto as individuals and avoid sanctions to the country?

WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ???????????????????????/

@gmg, Your reasoning is tired.
In production,we have four factors. Three factors are within our borders whether its tourism,horticulture or Agoa Epzs. Only one reward,profits to the owners we can say remains out there. Whats the percentage?
How many workers work in the hospitality sector?The horticulture etc? Then run those numbers against the number of wazungus benefiting.
Just vote for your candidate without getting desperate.
mkeiyd
#15 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 11:01:51 PM
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gmg wrote:
I have reviewed this issues and noted the way kenyan economy is the west will also suffer greatly by imposing sanctions to kenya as a state
reasons:
1. In the case of tourism its the European firms that benefit alot. The holiday packages are sold by European companies and payments made in UK and Europe.out of the 1 billion dollar income very little amount is left in Kenya.


2. Agricultural exports like tea for example unilever is the largest trader of kenyan tea so they will suffer coz of sanctions just as kenyans the same case applies to horticulture.

3. In banking their banks will also be hard hit??

I think the west will place restrictions on Uhuruto as individuals and avoid sanctions to the country?

WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ???????????????????????/

@gmg, Your reasoning is tired.
In production,we have four factors. Three factors are within our borders whether its tourism,horticulture or Agoa Epzs. Only one reward,profits to the owners we can say remains out there. Whats the percentage?
How many workers work in the hospitality sector?The horticulture etc? Then run those numbers against the number of wazungus benefiting.
Just vote for your candidate without getting desperate.
mpobiz
#16 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 11:05:18 PM
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wajuguna wrote:
All these santiona talk is meant to intimidate and put we, the 3rd world in 'our place'. Who said we cannot make our decisions and live with them. Are the 40m of us, or the percentage that vote in the majority so collectively dumb they must be whipped to line by the West? We should call their bluff, at least those of us who refuse to kiss butt.


50%+1votes for uhuru will clearly show the westeners where we want to be and they will clearly let us be.Not talking Not talking
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
simonkabz
#17 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2012 7:18:27 PM
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Over 80% vote in favour of Mugabe clearly showed the west where the zimbabwe pple wanted to be! Same as iran, sudan, venezuela. ......this line of argument remains weak.
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