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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Much Know wrote:No single country or envoy or UN official or anybody WITH A WORKING BRAIN concerning democracy has opposed Uhuru or Ruto running, this is a creation of i don't know who. Weka LINK! There is absolutely no logic in barring candidates simply because they have an ongoing court case in which they are fully cooperating! It will never happen, wake me up when one single envoy opposes any of the two running for elective post, It is perfectly legal, it is democracy and it will happen that Uhuruto will be in power in three months time! The ICC cases (Please understand it was a referral , ICC had requested Kenya to sort out these cases before) will then be immediately referred back to Kenya, and you know all charges will be dropped. In any case Isreal, Sudan, USA have all ditched ICC because they were to face charges, and blocked/rescinded to ICC, and have henceforth no legal obligations for signing up to ICC, it's NOTHING NEW. Remember Kenyatta came out of jail as a convicted terrorist to rule, Mandela came out of prison as a convicted terrorist to rule. Even Clinton was impeached and continued to rule till a verdict was found. Kapondi the Mt Elgon suspect was allowed to run. The voice of the people is the voice of God. No one punishes good democracy, hio ni uwongo tupu! ditto!! and PAMBA will no longer have VIP toilet or carpet.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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Never be fooled that the west gives a rat's ass about human rights. They will support whoever supports their interests in the region. Now if we knew what ALL those interests are, we could debate with better information about the merits or lack thereof of an Uhuruto leadership.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Dahatre wrote:Never be fooled that the west gives a rat's ass about human rights. They will support whoever supports their interests in the region. Now if we knew what ALL those interests are, we could debate with better information about the merits or lack thereof of an Uhuruto leadership. Are we clear about our own interests?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Do we need to know the western interests to realise waititu is a crook? Or some leaders are nonperformers? Or that some are warlords? Drug dealers? I think that is as easy as spitting. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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simonkabz wrote:BGL wrote:[quote=Ngalaka] If the story in the Star is to be believed, Uhuru and Ruto can not secure a Visa to a number of Westen world Countries. As though were not bad enough, the Envoys to those Countries are under instuctions not to have any dealing, discussion or otherwise with the ICC suspects! Link: http://www.the-star.co.k...-banned-visiting-europe[/quote] We do not have to do something differently because the so called western powers say so. Someone needs to wake up! You BGL need to wake up. Kenya survives on the west. As a man thinketh...so is he.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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kollabo wrote:simonkabz wrote:BGL wrote:[quote=Ngalaka] If the story in the Star is to be believed, Uhuru and Ruto can not secure a Visa to a number of Westen world Countries. As though were not bad enough, the Envoys to those Countries are under instuctions not to have any dealing, discussion or otherwise with the ICC suspects! Link: http://www.the-star.co.k...-banned-visiting-europe[/quote] We do not have to do something differently because the so called western powers say so. Someone needs to wake up! You BGL need to wake up. Kenya survives on the west. As a man thinketh...so is he. No state is an island my friend. Kenya lives off the west in so many aspects. So do many African states. In fact, the whole world seems to revolve around these white fellows n their asian allies. We can only get to our rightful place if we cooperate, not fight them. I'm sure you have heard of the rise of Japan, South Korea, Singapore, South Africa n China. Work with them, milk their aid, capture their market n eventually make it. Beating your bony chest will only result in pain. Kenya needs a leader who is ready to work with every nation, not just china, a developing socialist economy. Take that to your bank n get a ka~loan. . TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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simonkabz wrote:kollabo wrote:simonkabz wrote:BGL wrote:[quote=Ngalaka] If the story in the Star is to be believed, Uhuru and Ruto can not secure a Visa to a number of Westen world Countries. As though were not bad enough, the Envoys to those Countries are under instuctions not to have any dealing, discussion or otherwise with the ICC suspects! Link: http://www.the-star.co.k...-banned-visiting-europe[/quote] We do not have to do something differently because the so called western powers say so. Someone needs to wake up! You BGL need to wake up. Kenya survives on the west. As a man thinketh...so is he. No state is an island my friend. Kenya lives off the west in so many aspects. So do many African states. In fact, the whole world seems to revolve around these white fellows n their asian allies. We can only get to our rightful place if we cooperate, not fight them. I'm sure you have heard of the rise of Japan, South Korea, Singapore, South Africa n China. Work with them, milk their aid, capture their market n eventually make it. Beating your bony chest will only result in pain. Kenya needs a leader who is ready to work with every nation, not just china, a developing socialist economy. Take that to your bank n get a ka~loan. . I repeat....AS A MAN THINKETH SO IS HE!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Yeah, that is you. Can't help. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/11/2009 Posts: 1,223
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simonkabz wrote:kollabo wrote:simonkabz wrote:BGL wrote:[quote=Ngalaka] If the story in the Star is to be believed, Uhuru and Ruto can not secure a Visa to a number of Westen world Countries. As though were not bad enough, the Envoys to those Countries are under instuctions not to have any dealing, discussion or otherwise with the ICC suspects! Link: http://www.the-star.co.k...-banned-visiting-europe[/quote] We do not have to do something differently because the so called western powers say so. Someone needs to wake up! You BGL need to wake up. Kenya survives on the west. As a man thinketh...so is he. No state is an island my friend. Kenya lives off the west in so many aspects. So do many African states. In fact, the whole world seems to revolve around these white fellows n their asian allies. We can only get to our rightful place if we cooperate, not fight them. I'm sure you have heard of the rise of Japan, South Korea, Singapore, South Africa n China. Work with them, milk their aid, capture their market n eventually make it. Beating your bony chest will only result in pain. Kenya needs a leader who is ready to work with every nation, not just china, a developing socialist economy. Take that to your bank n get a ka~loan. . My friend @ simonkabz when i was young and being trained to become what i am today (by coincidence part of the training took part in the western world, i learned that conflict of interests have to be declared. The declarations take a simple form: BGL has no conflict of interest or BGL works for xxxx and corporation xxxx paid him xxxxx to do xxxxxx. If you have conflict of interests declare them so we can deconstruct or review you pro-west and anti-jubilee opinions. History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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BGL, after all our discussions in this forum you still ask me such? It's only fair if I save my precious breath. My rural folks want to beat RAO at the polls by voting uhuruto. That is a far more valid reason than some preposterous reasons being peddled by the middle class folks. I beg to rest. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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