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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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itz wrote:Lolest! wrote:itz wrote:
why would you give someone the presidency slot when they cannot even command 5% popularity in the opinion polls.So you guyz keep dreaming, Uhuru will be the presidential candidate not unless a miracle happens and Mudavadi 's ratings come above 20%
If opinion polls are anything to go by, then Saitoti would have been President in 2002! Where was Uhuru in opinion polls before Moi's backing? For those saying MM barely wins his seat, UK did not win Gatundu South in 1997 yet in 2002 he was a leading contender! Siasa ni complicated! @  . i trust synovate which was formally steadman.Since 02 they have been very accurate in predicting the outcome and so i consider them credible and very professional.Unless something drastically changes UK and Rao are the frontrunners anything other than that is just noise that you should ignore.Mudavadi just like PK cannot attract or communicate well to the masses(read mashinani not the urbanites).They are not charismatic but it doesn't mean they wouldn't make good presidents. kibaki and mdvs are very similar - no charisma at all and yet when kibaki tosha was pronounced in 2002 he found himself in the white house on the hill - pap. remember at one point the same synovate had kalonzo leading, politics is a drastic game - trust me drastic things will change before the polls
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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most of you miss the point, UK knows very well another Kiuk presidency after Kibaki is next to impossible. He is not stupid. with the ICC hot on their heels, they need a safety net and that's none other than MaDvD, that's why they will do all they can to lock out pamba from the house on the hill who would otherwise hand them over. In my own opinion Gema/kales have no problem voting for MaDvD and you will see that happen come march 2013 to protect their own. Like it or hate it we are in a very tribal country. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@itz, you didnt get my drift. My point is candidates are made strong depending on who their backers are. A weak Musalia with a strong backing from Uhuruto would become very strong.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Much Know wrote:complicated yah! Am actually concerned that if uk cedes to madvd 'chokora msafi' will become very strong. The sad reality of our politics! PK will not get central votes even if UK is out of the race. BTW, why dont you give us this dossier you have against Pk? I have seen many anti-PK people-funny enough from nyumba-opt to remain with their dossiers than spill them for the benefit of us all.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2009 Posts: 348
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nakujua wrote:itz wrote:Lolest! wrote:itz wrote:
why would you give someone the presidency slot when they cannot even command 5% popularity in the opinion polls.So you guyz keep dreaming, Uhuru will be the presidential candidate not unless a miracle happens and Mudavadi 's ratings come above 20%
If opinion polls are anything to go by, then Saitoti would have been President in 2002! Where was Uhuru in opinion polls before Moi's backing? For those saying MM barely wins his seat, UK did not win Gatundu South in 1997 yet in 2002 he was a leading contender! Siasa ni complicated! @ . i trust synovate which was formally steadman.Since 02 they have been very accurate in predicting the outcome and so i consider them credible and very professional.Unless something drastically changes UK and Rao are the frontrunners anything other than that is just noise that you should ignore.Mudavadi just like PK cannot attract or communicate well to the masses(read mashinani not the urbanites).They are not charismatic but it doesn't mean they wouldn't make good presidents. kibaki and mdvs are very similar - no charisma at all and yet when kibaki tosha was pronounced in 2002 he found himself in the white house on the hill - pap. remember at one point the same synovate had kalonzo leading, politics is a drastic game - trust me drastic things will change before the polls @Nakujua. Yes Kalonzo was leading at one point according to the synovate polls but then he came tumbling all the way down to 8% according to the same polls.So the synovate poll is credible which was my point.FYI kibaki makes people laugh all the time with his one liners.that is charisma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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@Lolest.....Two factors, UMK not being in the ballot, PK being a mtu wa nyumba and the fear of Ruto in central will get PK more votes than earlier anticipated....... perfect way for PK to position himself for 2017. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:@Lolest.....Two factors, UMK not being in the ballot, PK being a mtu wa nyumba and the fear of Ruto in central will get PK more votes than earlier anticipated....... perfect way for PK to position himself for 2017. Then your Tinga will finally pass between PK and Muhurutu. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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McReggae wrote:@Lolest.....Two factors, UMK not being in the ballot, PK being a mtu wa nyumba and the fear of Ruto in central will get PK more votes than earlier anticipated....... perfect way for PK to position himself for 2017. Jaduong
This is a nice dream....
We had Hon Hassan elected at Kamukunji despite 2 kikuyu candates one of whom was being supported by Peter Kenneth.
We had Hon Ole Sakuda elected despite 4 kikuyu candidates being in the race to divide the kikuyu votes. Peter Kenneth's candidate a kikuyu had 391 votes against Ole Sakuda's 26387 votes.
Who made the difference in these 2 by elections...Uhuru Kenyatta.
Keep dreaming.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@Liv, I agree. @mcreggae, ati fear of Ruto? Rutophobia is far lower than Railaphobia in central. Muhuruto just need to campaign on an anti-Raila platform and the rest of the candidates will at best share 20% of the vote.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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McReggae wrote:@Lolest.....Two factors, UMK not being in the ballot, PK being a mtu wa nyumba and the fear of Ruto in central will get PK more votes than earlier anticipated....... perfect way for PK to position himself for 2017. you are wrong...actually I see PK taking away youth and urban votes most of which are RAO's. i.am.back!!!!
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