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WR & UK Presidency
Liv
#31 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:11:42 AM
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simonkabz wrote:

Kura ni yako, Kenya ni YETU. I shall voice my concerns till the day I breath my last, this is my motherland we are talking about, this is about my future, I won't keep quiet. ......I can't entrust it with UHURUTO.




simonkabz wrote:


Richdad, shut up, please. Tafadhali, sio kwa ubaya. Please withdraw all those words you've typed except that Ruto is a performer, and a Thief. Please, don't insult us. Tafadhali.




simonkabz wrote:


Woi! I admire those who support uhuruto for the sake of it, not these astonishing excuses. Just support those fellows quietly richdad, quietly. ...n preserve your dignity!



@Richdad, You should know by now that .... Everyone who is not a PK supporter should shut up.... only PK campaing managers and supporters are allowed to air the views in this forum.
simonkabz
#32 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:33:59 AM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
Location: Cameroon
Liv wrote:
simonkabz wrote:

Kura ni yako, Kenya ni YETU. I shall voice my concerns till the day I breath my last, this is my motherland we are talking about, this is about my future, I won't keep quiet. ......I can't entrust it with UHURUTO.




simonkabz wrote:


Richdad, shut up, please. Tafadhali, sio kwa ubaya. Please withdraw all those words you've typed except that Ruto is a performer, and a Thief. Please, don't insult us. Tafadhali.




simonkabz wrote:


Woi! I admire those who support uhuruto for the sake of it, not these astonishing excuses. Just support those fellows quietly richdad, quietly. ...n preserve your dignity!



@Richdad, You should know by now that .... Everyone who is not a PK supporter should shut up.... only PK campaing managers and supporters are allowed to air the views in this forum.



Sasa wewe nawe. ......If arguments are cheap, what to do? Did u read richdad telling us ati we have china, Russia n Africa? This is a guy who is well read, n I'm sure he has heard of Sudan n Zimbabwe, n apparently, he doesn't mind us heading in that direction. Anyway, I'm sure many here would not agree with either u or him. At least Mawinder doesn't give such funny excuses. he. ....either way I'm unbowed.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
wajuguna
#33 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:02:03 AM
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Location: Kenya
All this talk about the US and the West lording over the world, true as it may be should be interrogated as to its sanctity. Were they created to be just that? How exactly do we, the third world folks benefit in the equation. We should not allow ourselves to be boxed in some corner and surrender ourselves to remaining just there because our 'benefactors' destine us for that. That's hogwash and abdication of our collective intellect.
These global lords could as well go sit on a pin!
tassia
#34 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:21:52 AM
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richdad wrote:
Some people will cry and call for mass action but there will be nobody to fight for them.

Ruto is a performer. He changed a lot in the ministry of agriculture and did great thing in his 3 months in ministry of higher education.

Uhuru revolutionized micro banking when in charge of finance.

Yes there is the ICC issue but do we have alternatives? Raila = Kibera for over 20yrs (he benefits when people remain poor) = kazi kwa vijana, maize, kisumu land issues etc. Nepotisms and will never forgive him for 40 against 1 an 1982 coup.

PK. Not tested with power. Has very few supporters of idealists and diaspora fellows who have no idea of problems facing common Mwananchi. His campaign funding is questionable.

Martha = unknown bitterness=Dictator.

The rest = just having fun.

My vote=Uhuru+Ruto.

International community....we have China, Russia and Africa.


There are generally two types of voters though you could introduce more classifications.

1. Those who decide who to vote based on emotions.
2. Those who take time to have a detailed analysis of the candidate over time, not based on one particular incidence or just a speech.

If anyone cared to analyse Ruto and Uhuru over time, this team will get zero votes. If anyone was mature enough to know the days of Youth for KANU 92, they would not want to hear Ruto anywhere near power. The same case to those who were around when he was an MP and Cabinet Minister in the Nyayo error.

I guess we haven't forgotten the number of scandals he has been linked to and even taken to court for the same. He still have the ICC case with him.

If anyone has cared to listen to Ruto and has a good memory, they will know Ruto takes the trophy for double speak.

It is unfortunate that we can be deceived by a one day press release or information to forget who really a person is. As for Uhuru, I had mentioned why I cannot vote for him else where.

If any Wazuan think that Kenya will not get a beating by electing these two fellows, I pity the Republic of Kenya.

Your China, Russia and Africa may help but will not be good enough. Overall, Kenya will be worse off. We have seen Countries that are more economically strong even with resources like oil suffer when they fall out. Remember that the USA, UK and France still have so much influence on the UN.

Kenyans let us open our eyes
Money Whisperer
#35 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:22:49 AM
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I can't believe the lies spread all over that a non-Kikuyu cannot buy land in Central yet Thika, Runda, Ruaka are in Central
"Money never sleeps"
tassia
#36 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:26:35 AM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
I can't believe the lies spread all over that a non-Kikuyu cannot buy land in Central yet Thika, Runda, Ruaka are in Central


That comment is made by those who have not travelled beyond their birth places
tassia
#37 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:33:24 AM
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githundi wrote:
Excetra1 wrote:
@richdad plesae read www.peterkenneth.com lest you remain ignorant

There is too much anti-uhuru and anti-ruto rhetoric in the thread. I would rather people stick to why they support their candidates. We accomodate candidates of all walks of life. I support uhuto cause it heals the wounds of 2008 in rv where i come from. It unites people rather than what we are made to bealive. Stability of rv is vital for the country. This country needs strong leadership which they can provide.


I may excuse you and want to believe this is not your thinking but the guys of machinani where you come from. But having worked with different communities in Kenya and assuming you have done so, would you still need a politician to be a go between you and a fellow Kenyan just because the other person happen to be born in a community that speaks a different language from yours. Politicians like these suck.
McReggae
#38 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:37:48 AM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
I can't believe the lies spread all over that a non-Kikuyu cannot buy land in Central yet Thika, Runda, Ruaka are in Central


Deep down you know what is being discussed here, uliza thimioni!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
mawinder
#39 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:52:14 AM
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Any evidence to show that Kenya will face sanctions if Uhuru is elected president and cooperates with ICC or the sanctions are a creative imagination of wazuans?
TAZ
#40 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:56:55 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
I can't believe the lies spread all over that a non-Kikuyu cannot buy land in Central yet Thika, Runda, Ruaka are in Central


Deep down you know what is being discussed here, uliza thimioni!!!


Laughable at best, wakati wa propaganda umeanza.
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