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kayoh
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:12:58 PM
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I've just realised its a whole election cycle and I still haven't seen any reliable figures on the much touted 'stolen election.' Does anyone have figures? Or can anyone point me in the right direction?
Believe you me,I've searched but just find either emotional innuendo or pure bs. Anyone?
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But this press penchant for supporting false narratives was best observed in the December 2007 election. They enthusiastically allowed criminal incitement and were complicit in what turned out to be a failed Odinga led civilian coup

http://karanjazplace.blo...ves-distorting-our.html
Am waiting.
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TiggerTiggy
#2 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:24:09 AM
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yaliopita si ndwele, tugange yajao
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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:34:58 AM
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TiggerTiggy wrote:
yaliopita si ndwele, tugange yajao

...@Tiggy you dint even have to answer him.
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Jus Blazin
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:50:49 AM
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Dude's just trying to market his blog. Hawesmek.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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#5 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:55:27 AM
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If you want to continue moving forward, stop looking backwards.

If you are a politician, you should keep a keen eye on voter registration numbers!
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Money Whisperer
#6 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:06:50 AM
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Basically anywhere where voter turnout was more than 90% means there was rigging. Now in Bondo voter turn out was 102%, Juja 98%. Go figure
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mukiha
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:16:28 AM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
Basically anywhere where voter turnout was more than 90% means there was rigging. Now in Bondo voter turn out was 102%, Juja 98%. Go figure


Juja had 160,000 registered voters; 119,000 turned up to vote; therefore turn-out was 74%

Where did you get 98% from?

I am inclined to also doubt the 102% figure you have given for Bondo!
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Money Whisperer
#8 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:36:49 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
Basically anywhere where voter turnout was more than 90% means there was rigging. Now in Bondo voter turn out was 102%, Juja 98%. Go figure


Juja had 160,000 registered voters; 119,000 turned up to vote; therefore turn-out was 74%

Where did you get 98% from?

I am inclined to also doubt the 102% figure you have given for Bondo!

I recall that it was an issue (for Juja) during the petition. Bear in mind the final figure of votes cast is different from voter turn out because the final figure does not factor in spoiled votes
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#9 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:48:43 AM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
mukiha wrote:
Money Whisperer wrote:
Basically anywhere where voter turnout was more than 90% means there was rigging. Now in Bondo voter turn out was 102%, Juja 98%. Go figure


Juja had 160,000 registered voters; 119,000 turned up to vote; therefore turn-out was 74%

Where did you get 98% from?

I am inclined to also doubt the 102% figure you have given for Bondo!

I recall that it was an issue (for Juja) during the petition. Bear in mind the final figure of votes cast is different from voter turn out because the final figure does not factor in spoiled votes


wacha porojo!

Anyone can claim that such and such a place the turn out was X%; but without numbers that claim remains just porojo!

I picked those figures from the final tally given by ECK - I was doing an analysis at the time.

SO where are your figures?

If you don't have any; don't give percentages!
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kayoh
#10 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:37:02 PM
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This issue is central in understanding our present plight. Because elections were 'stolen,'people were killed and deals made that negatively affected our national trajectory. Imagine if we'd continued our 7.1% growth rate;even with the Western recessions we'd still have maintained reasonable momentum.
Its not about 'blog marketing,'or 'looking ahead.' The truth must be revealed. I have shown conclusively how the loser was shown to have rigged beyond doubt. Am asking for any forumer to do the same for the winner-prove the allegations with acceptable statistics.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:59:32 PM
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Tell a lie often enough, loud enough, and long enough, and people will believe you.
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kayoh
#12 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:52:46 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Tell a lie often enough, loud enough, and long enough, and people will believe you.
-Adolf Hitler

Of course,even if they do have figures they know they can't stand scrutiny so they'd rather remain behind their collective fortress of fake anger and grievance.
It may have worked for a time,not anymore.
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Tokyo
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:58:05 AM
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Where is the final tally?
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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 1:16:58 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Tell a lie often enough, loud enough, and long enough, and people will believe you.
-Adolf Hitler

facts are man made, so lies can also be turned into facts if people agree on it.
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jimmy1
#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:49:38 PM
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According to the Kriegler Report, six constituencies recorded more than 94% turn out during the 2007 elections.
Bondo and Kisumu Rural constituencies had 102% voter turn out. Karachuonyo had 94%, Rangwe 93%, Nyatike 95% and Mbita 95%
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