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Coolio wrote:King G wrote:We just need to close the border with Somalia and repartiate all these bloody refugees = men, women and children! Let UN make all the nose, bloody coso coso.
I strongly echo your sentiments. Kajwang' needs to act now.. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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murchr wrote:Coolio wrote:King G wrote:We just need to close the border with Somalia and repartiate all these bloody refugees = men, women and children! Let UN make all the nose, bloody coso coso.
I strongly echo your sentiments. Kajwang' needs to act now.. Wapi Mc doba to pass the message to him during kitchen cabinet meeting this week Thieves
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Gordon Gekko wrote:InnovateGuy wrote:On security matters, fate is not on our side. The biggest failure seems to be leadership, intelligence deficiency and ill-preparedness. Spot on. Like I said in a post on the Eastleigh issue, when we put other considerations before professionalism in making security appointments, we systematically dismantled a system that was working. Who remembers Kenya security apparatus at one point being ranked the best in Africa, comparable to Mossad? It is not a problem requiring brute KDF or GSU strength, we need intel, people who can interpret the intel and advise accordingly. like button clicked
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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jamplu wrote:...3 dead soldiers doesn't mean Garissa is burning stop being sensational. That town has always had insecurity issues since kitambo only this time its being reported. The C in C and all those that he delegates the duties to secure this country should be serious about our safety before things get out of hand! Really?? from what I saw Garissa was literally burning.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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in one of mutahi article he mentioned insecurity as reason to postpone elections. I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/15/2009 Posts: 371
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Dash wrote:jamplu wrote:...3 dead soldiers doesn't mean Garissa is burning stop being sensational. That town has always had insecurity issues since kitambo only this time its being reported. The C in C and all those that he delegates the duties to secure this country should be serious about our safety before things get out of hand! Really?? from what I saw Garissa was literally burning. Hope you are an eye witness since what I saw on TV was not fire.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:InnovateGuy wrote:On security matters, fate is not on our side. The biggest failure seems to be leadership, intelligence deficiency and ill-preparedness. Spot on. Like I said in a post on the Eastleigh issue, when we put other considerations before professionalism in making security appointments, we systematically dismantled a system that was working. Who remembers Kenya security apparatus at one point being ranked the best in Africa, comparable to Mossad? It is not a problem requiring brute KDF or GSU strength, we need intel, people who can interpret the intel and advise accordingly. like button clicked ....to a point where the security personnel feel so unappreciated and they do profiling when sending officers to dnager areas, it's appalling.....in Baragoi the dead police officers were evidently profiled for mission impossible!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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These are problems that have incubated for a long term only now coming to a volatile eruption. Deep seated corruption and destruction of institutions by the Kenyatta, Moi and even Kibaki's regimes ensured that our security organs lost competence ..we can't pay the police a reasonable wage, so for very long they took bribes and allowed criminal enterprise to take root; the state allowed the border between Kenya and Somalia become porous, they can't manage refugees within our borders. Corruption at the Home (Home?) office started selling Kenya's citizenship for a song, end result we have so many undesirables living in our midst doing illegal activity unchecked. They are too many, they have lived here illegally for too long, we can't track them all now.
But leaving Somalia to be a lawless state next door would have been a worse mistake, with more catastrophic consequences in the future.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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quicksand wrote:These are problems that have incubated for a long term only now coming to a volatile eruption. Deep seated corruption and destruction of institutions by the Kenyatta, Moi and even Kibaki's regimes ensured that our security organs lost competence ..we can't pay the police a reasonable wage, so for very long they took bribes and allowed criminal enterprise to take root; the state allowed the border between Kenya and Somalia become porous, they can't manage refugees within our borders. Corruption at the Home (Home?) office started selling Kenya's citizenship for a song, end result we have so many undesirables living in our midst doing illegal activity unchecked. They are too many, they have lived here illegally for too long, we can't track them all now.
But leaving Somalia to be a lawless state next door would have been a worse mistake, with more catastrophic consequences in the future. give due credit, baba uk and baba gidi did a very good job as far as security was concerned, they might have rubbed a number of people the wrong way and in wrong parts - but heck, insecurity was never allowed to sink this low. somalia has been lawless from the early 90's
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:quicksand wrote:These are problems that have incubated for a long term only now coming to a volatile eruption. Deep seated corruption and destruction of institutions by the Kenyatta, Moi and even Kibaki's regimes ensured that our security organs lost competence ..we can't pay the police a reasonable wage, so for very long they took bribes and allowed criminal enterprise to take root; the state allowed the border between Kenya and Somalia become porous, they can't manage refugees within our borders. Corruption at the Home (Home?) office started selling Kenya's citizenship for a song, end result we have so many undesirables living in our midst doing illegal activity unchecked. They are too many, they have lived here illegally for too long, we can't track them all now.
But leaving Somalia to be a lawless state next door would have been a worse mistake, with more catastrophic consequences in the future. give due credit, baba uk and baba gidi did a very good job as far as security was concerned, they might have rubbed a number of people the wrong way and in wrong parts - but heck, insecurity was never allowed to sink this low. somalia has been lawless from the early 90's Bila. They wrecked Kenya's economy. Security is heavily dependent on a healthy, thriving economy to be reliable. Busting a few people's nuts is not a good security strategy. No credit is due to them. It's like robbing a household and then passing the family members a chapati each to pacify them. Angalia the big picture boss.
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