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vinii
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:39:13 AM
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Mr.Ngengi a KRA employee is seeking to be compensated for his innovation. Seems matters have headed to the court. What is the legal position when an employee comes up with some innovation that is beneficial to his employer? any precedents?
See full story in today's Nation Smart Company
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King G
#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:08:48 AM
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ok i am yet to read the story. But employees are rewarded for creativity and innovation as part of the position's job evaluation process!
Thieves
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Impunity
#3 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:36:11 AM
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vinii wrote:
Mr.Ngengi a KRA employee is seeking to be compensated for his innovation. Seems matters have headed to the court. What is the legal position when an employee comes up with some innovation that is beneficial to his employer? any precedents?
See full story in today's Nation Smart Company


May be 5% pay increase and a thank you.
Nothing much.
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mkeiyd
#4 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:39:51 AM
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vinii wrote:
Mr.Ngengi a KRA employee is seeking to be compensated for his innovation. Seems matters have headed to the court. What is the legal position when an employee comes up with some innovation that is beneficial to his employer? any precedents?
See full story in today's Nation Smart Company


Haven't read the story yet but i'm just thinking, as an employer, why am i employing you?
To be "uninnovative"?
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quicksand
#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:47:02 AM
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I doubt he will make much progress. Its all in the fine print of most employment contracts, most innovations belong to the company as long as you are in its employ, rewards or recognition usually being awarded in the usual manner - pat on the back - or lack thereof ... and the usual salary and yearly increments. Add to the fact that KRA is not a profit making organization, therefore it can't be said that it earned income from the innovation (tax collected is different - KRA hands over monies to the Treasury and the money belongs to us all)
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luxel
#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:55:10 AM
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The arguement is that some innovations are beyond the normal duties that one has been employed to perform and hence they should be attributed (and patented) to the innovator.
That seems to be the case with ngengi because his innovation was so significant that he won international awards. KRA is not in the business of growing technovators so this was out of ngengi normal duties.
But the sad thing is that some useless senior guys at KRA want to spend kshs 1B to buy the same software from "other sources" without recognising ngengi or even paying him a cent for it.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:32:13 AM
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I saw the emails these grumpy old men were sending each other to frustrate the young innovator and I was shocked. They have a perfectly working system developed by this guy but they want to tender it out for another with same specs so the guy doesn't become richer than them. Now this is the hight of jealousy.

BBI will solve it :)
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quicksand
#8 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:51:26 AM
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quicksand
#9 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:59:54 AM
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There is clear intent to commit fraud; I think the employee can claim damages for distress caused by the abrupt and pointless transfer. Despite the fact that employment contracts stipulate the employer can send you anywhere, the senior execs nefarious behavior should override that.
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McReggae
#10 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:23:46 AM
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