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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Chiaroscuro,imagine walking from fire station to railways to board the train with the rain in the evening and finding the train has just left or it is yet to arrive.btw,if the train does not target matatu guys,how do you connect to ngong road,westlands,upperhill,waiyaki way where offices are situated?no wonder in the business daily today,the train is running with 40 passengers 30 of them school children on a tour.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Come on...We need to stop thinking cheap. Cheap is very expensive. At the same time, some people are so attached to their cars they forget to count. When you spend 1.5 hours in a traffic jam then another 1 hour on the way back, you have basically wasted 2.5 hours a day of your life. 2.5 hoursx365 means you will have wasted 912.5 hours in a year. Or simply 39 days of your life doing nothing but destroying the ozone layer. In other words, being a useless being. 300 bob is cheap. It means that now you will have 2 hours in your life every day which you can spend with your family or at least tending to the broilers you have in your backyard. Life is about math. Lakini some of us had better pay citi kajo fees than live a productive life. Cheap has never been productive. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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alma wrote:Come on...We need to stop thinking cheap.
Cheap is very expensive. At the same time, some people are so attached to their cars they forget to count.
When you spend 1.5 hours in a traffic jam then another 1 hour on the way back, you have basically wasted 2.5 hours a day of your life.
2.5 hoursx365 means you will have wasted 912.5 hours in a year. Or simply 39 days of your life doing nothing but destroying the ozone layer. In other words, being a useless being.
300 bob is cheap. It means that now you will have 2 hours in your life every day which you can spend with your family or at least tending to the broilers you have in your backyard.
Life is about math.
Lakini some of us had better pay citi kajo fees than live a productive life. Cheap has never been productive. ...@alma i totally agree if i,d save all that time by using the train i would always use it...you also keep fit while dn so,if am working at GPO,Moi avenue,Kenyatta avenue etc it wud talk me like 10-15 mins to walk to railways thats good exercise instead of getting mad while in the jam,seething and boiling with rage...and it doesnt rain daily in Kenya,you can be using your car when the rainy season sets in...save on time,save on money,exercise for free,what else would you want. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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mawinder wrote:Chiaroscuro,imagine walking from fire station to railways to board the train with the rain in the evening and finding the train has just left or it is yet to arrive.btw,if the train does not target matatu guys,how do you connect to ngong road,westlands,upperhill,waiyaki way where offices are situated?no wonder in the business daily today,the train is running with 40 passengers 30 of them school children on a tour. Is it better to walk to Central Bus Station under the same weather conditions...and then find that there are no matatus because the the are held up by the rain-induced jam on Mombasa road? BTW: The train runs on a timetable, so the issue of "finding the train has just left or is yet to arrive" does not arise! People must learn to go by a timetable.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 249 Location: nairobi
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mawinder wrote:Chiaroscuro,imagine walking from fire station to railways to board the train with the rain in the evening and finding the train has just left or it is yet to arrive.btw,if the train does not target matatu guys,how do you connect to ngong road,westlands,upperhill,waiyaki way where offices are situated?no wonder in the business daily today,the train is running with 40 passengers 30 of them school children on a tour. Thats the reality..... ..desire to succeed is always fighting with fear of failure..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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murchr wrote:maka wrote:mkeiyd wrote:the only drawback on this is the 100bob fare. otherwise it makes a lot of sense time wise. how long does it take to find park after 10 in the morning in town?how long does it on the road?
About having different classes of fares,that would be beating the whole logic of MASS urban transport.
Whether its a tube or a subway, the brits/americans stand or has our middle class gotten richer than those two? ...We need to do a practical study on the viability of ths thing hakuna mtu anaishi mahali huko awe case study for a week we make a comparison of how much they save if they use the train instead of a car to and fro...and the car shouldnt be a vitz. Fuel from Syokimau to and fro = 300 + parking fees 150. (note this is not a rainy day) and if u have a guzzler ur likely to be spending more, so what is 200/- for a hustle free ride? 300 bob fuel syokimau - railway station to and fro - I need to buy that car asap, please advice on the car.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 249 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:alma wrote:Come on...We need to stop thinking cheap.
Cheap is very expensive. At the same time, some people are so attached to their cars they forget to count.
When you spend 1.5 hours in a traffic jam then another 1 hour on the way back, you have basically wasted 2.5 hours a day of your life.
2.5 hoursx365 means you will have wasted 912.5 hours in a year. Or simply 39 days of your life doing nothing but destroying the ozone layer. In other words, being a useless being.
300 bob is cheap. It means that now you will have 2 hours in your life every day which you can spend with your family or at least tending to the broilers you have in your backyard.
Life is about math.
Lakini some of us had better pay citi kajo fees than live a productive life. Cheap has never been productive. ...@alma i totally agree if i,d save all that time by using the train i would always use it...you also keep fit while dn so,if am working at GPO,Moi avenue,Kenyatta avenue etc it wud talk me like 10-15 mins to walk to railways thats good exercise instead of getting mad while in the jam,seething and boiling with rage...and it doesnt rain daily in Kenya,you can be using your car when the rainy season sets in...save on time,save on money,exercise for free,what else would you want. its better to treat a disease than the symptoms....we all know the problem is on rounabouts along uhuru highway.There is a train to thika and if railway was the solution, then thika road project could have been shelved. Upgrading uhuru highway and doing away with round abouts is the way 2 go... ..desire to succeed is always fighting with fear of failure..
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/2/2011 Posts: 629 Location: Nai
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maina20 wrote:maka wrote:alma wrote:Come on...We need to stop thinking cheap.
Cheap is very expensive. At the same time, some people are so attached to their cars they forget to count.
When you spend 1.5 hours in a traffic jam then another 1 hour on the way back, you have basically wasted 2.5 hours a day of your life.
2.5 hoursx365 means you will have wasted 912.5 hours in a year. Or simply 39 days of your life doing nothing but destroying the ozone layer. In other words, being a useless being.
300 bob is cheap. It means that now you will have 2 hours in your life every day which you can spend with your family or at least tending to the broilers you have in your backyard.
Life is about math.
Lakini some of us had better pay citi kajo fees than live a productive life. Cheap has never been productive. ...@alma i totally agree if i,d save all that time by using the train i would always use it...you also keep fit while dn so,if am working at GPO,Moi avenue,Kenyatta avenue etc it wud talk me like 10-15 mins to walk to railways thats good exercise instead of getting mad while in the jam,seething and boiling with rage...and it doesnt rain daily in Kenya,you can be using your car when the rainy season sets in...save on time,save on money,exercise for free,what else would you want. its better to treat a disease than the symptoms....we all know the problem is on rounabouts along uhuru highway.There is a train to thika and if railway was the solution, then thika road project could have been shelved. Upgrading uhuru highway and doing away with round abouts is the way 2 go... No its not. developing mass transit systems is the way to go.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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accelriskconsult wrote:maina20 wrote:maka wrote:alma wrote:Come on...We need to stop thinking cheap.
Cheap is very expensive. At the same time, some people are so attached to their cars they forget to count.
When you spend 1.5 hours in a traffic jam then another 1 hour on the way back, you have basically wasted 2.5 hours a day of your life.
2.5 hoursx365 means you will have wasted 912.5 hours in a year. Or simply 39 days of your life doing nothing but destroying the ozone layer. In other words, being a useless being.
300 bob is cheap. It means that now you will have 2 hours in your life every day which you can spend with your family or at least tending to the broilers you have in your backyard.
Life is about math.
Lakini some of us had better pay citi kajo fees than live a productive life. Cheap has never been productive. ...@alma i totally agree if i,d save all that time by using the train i would always use it...you also keep fit while dn so,if am working at GPO,Moi avenue,Kenyatta avenue etc it wud talk me like 10-15 mins to walk to railways thats good exercise instead of getting mad while in the jam,seething and boiling with rage...and it doesnt rain daily in Kenya,you can be using your car when the rainy season sets in...save on time,save on money,exercise for free,what else would you want. its better to treat a disease than the symptoms....we all know the problem is on rounabouts along uhuru highway.There is a train to thika and if railway was the solution, then thika road project could have been shelved. Upgrading uhuru highway and doing away with round abouts is the way 2 go... No its not. developing mass transit systems is the way to go. ...I agree @maina20 take time and read this http://en.m.wikipedia.or...ondon_congestion_charge even if we remove all roundabouts the change will be watered down after some few years rem the population is growing,the standard of living is also rising substantially translating to more cars on the road when compared to past years...CBD will be congested as ever,parking bays wont grow at the same speed unless we knock down buildings and build multi level storey parking bays or take up uhuru park and build parking spaces,the solution as you have been told is safe,reliable,efficent mass transportation...thats the way to go... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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The problem with this syokimau project is the false optimism exuded by the media. The syokimau train is not a new train its a refurbishment of an old train...and that the problem with this commuter train. Currently RVR has about 5 trains plying different Nrb routes.Reliability of this service is a pipe dream.Take for instance today, people traveling from kahawa and Ruiru had to endure hrs of delay...a train that was supposed to arrive in Nrb at 7.30am arrived at 9.30 .... and this is not a first time ..its is something they do regularly...you cant rely on these trains. In the media they reported the syokimau train will be taking 25minute I was there yesterday The ATA is 45 minutes...and that's becoz its a new service once it gets old and the hype dies down it will not be a surprise when the delays become unbearable to the target customers. The other thing is the terminus outside the Nrb station..the dust and the chaos out there will make it unattractive to high end clientele...it's even worse when it rains. In my opinion for the train to serve its purpos of decongesting the road they shld have competitive rates that will convince someone that the hustle from the Nrb station is worth the saving made. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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