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Rank: Member Joined: 3/6/2008 Posts: 632
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Interesting discussion re-PK & son well done however any young well educated person can deliver what he did if not better. What really is issue based politics and are we as a country ready for this? How will we overcome our tribal differences, i saw on twitter tribal positions on a foreign election..what a dumb thing to do. That said for us to realise our dreams and elect a leader who will further the countries course we need to engage the voter in the village, by this i mean armies and armies of middle-class volunteers, we donate out time, knowledge and few shillings educating rural folk on what matters to who and why - only that way will we be able to overcome the clowns on our sets nowadays, we have left the all important function to them and their cronies and this usually only goes one way!!
The greatest danger in times of turbulence is not the turbulence; it is to act with yesterday's logic.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 301 Location: Nairobi
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Ric dees wrote:
Interesting discussion re-PK & son well done however any young well educated person can deliver what he did if not better.
What really is issue based politics and are we as a country ready for this?
How will we overcome our tribal differences, i saw on twitter tribal positions on a foreign election..what a dumb thing to do.
That said for us to realise our dreams and elect a leader who will further the countries course we need to engage the voter in the village, by this i mean armies and armies of middle-class volunteers, we donate out time, knowledge and few shillings educating rural folk on what matters to who and why - only that way will we be able to overcome the clowns on our sets nowadays, we have left the all important function to them and their cronies and this usually only goes one way!!
I agree. The situation now calls for people to make personal and individual effort to educate other electorate particularly those within our circles of influence e.g family. That would be more effective than parading in rallies to dance and listen to innuendos and promises that have no basis.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Ric dees wrote:
Interesting discussion re-PK & son well done however any young well educated person can deliver what he did if not better.
You could be right but all the other contestants have kids and they haven't used them to their advantage. Some of their kids are not credible. PK's son was believable and I'm sure the strategy won many women and deep religious people over and portrayed a candidate who's done something right on the family front as well. I agree with you on your second point. Ask anyone from the tribes that have produced presidents for this nation (Kikuyus and Kalenjins) if they got a piece of the proverbial 'ugali' and you'll get the same answer, No. If we get a leader who will improve the country we'll all improve.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Ric dees wrote:
Interesting discussion re-PK & son well done however any young well educated person can deliver what he did if not better.
What really is issue based politics and are we as a country ready for this?
How will we overcome our tribal differences, i saw on twitter tribal positions on a foreign election..what a dumb thing to do.
That said for us to realise our dreams and elect a leader who will further the countries course we need to engage the voter in the village, by this i mean armies and armies of middle-class volunteers, we donate out time, knowledge and few shillings educating rural folk on what matters to who and why - only that way will we be able to overcome the clowns on our sets nowadays, we have left the all important function to them and their cronies and this usually only goes one way!!
middle class educating the rural folk, 
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 301 Location: Nairobi
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If anybody in here is part of PK's core team, please tell them to restore the old website. The current(new) site is a joke and looks like someone's learning how to write HTML with it.
The old one is way better than what they have right now.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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http://www.kenyanlist.co...ting-show.php?id=101881
I was having a very dull Friday morning until "a friend" forwarded the herein above.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 301 Location: Nairobi
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Zimbabwe was once among the most prosperous countries in Africa. Now, due to sanctions and other related effects, they have to deal with such currencies. One Hundred Trillion Dollar BillYou cannot govern a country with ego and arrogance. These situations are real, lets vote wisely.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Ric dees wrote:
Interesting discussion re-PK & son well done however any young well educated person can deliver what he did if not better.
What really is issue based politics and are we as a country ready for this?
How will we overcome our tribal differences, i saw on twitter tribal positions on a foreign election..what a dumb thing to do.
That said for us to realise our dreams and elect a leader who will further the countries course we need to engage the voter in the village, by this i mean armies and armies of middle-class volunteers, we donate out time, knowledge and few shillings educating rural folk on what matters to who and why - only that way will we be able to overcome the clowns on our sets nowadays, we have left the all important function to them and their cronies and this usually only goes one way!!
Mwenye shibe sasa adai kumjua mwenye njaa! 'Few Shillings' for what? This middle class is truly presumptuous.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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eboomerang wrote:Zimbabwe was once among the most prosperous countries in Africa. Now, due to sanctions and other related effects, they have to deal with such currencies. One Hundred Trillion Dollar BillYou cannot govern a country with ego and arrogance. These situations are real, lets vote wisely. This message should be displayed in every polling station. Before u vote in a suspect just to spite the west, think of the zimbabwe dollar. Some of the diehards will be crying in the toilet n blaming everybody but themselves for a shilling gone to the dogs, n of course the mzungu, who had in fact warned you well in advance. I pity my country! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/8/2009 Posts: 171
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eboomerang wrote:Zimbabwe was once among the most prosperous countries in Africa. Now, due to sanctions and other related effects, they have to deal with such currencies. One Hundred Trillion Dollar BillYou cannot govern a country with ego and arrogance. These situations are real, lets vote wisely. Here's a collection of some of the bank notes in my possession. Take note of the variance in the denominations (occurred in a fairly short span of time)  ¡ʇɹoɟɟǝ ƃuıɟɟǝ ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ɥɔnɯ os ؛uıɐʌ uı ɔıqɐɹɐ ƃuıuɹɐǝן pǝıɹʇ ı
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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simonkabz wrote:eboomerang wrote:Zimbabwe was once among the most prosperous countries in Africa. Now, due to sanctions and other related effects, they have to deal with such currencies. One Hundred Trillion Dollar BillYou cannot govern a country with ego and arrogance. These situations are real, lets vote wisely. This message should be displayed in every polling station. Before u vote in a suspect just to spite the west, think of the zimbabwe dollar. Some of the diehards will be crying in the toilet n blaming everybody but themselves for a shilling gone to the dogs, n of course the mzungu, who had in fact warned you well in advance. I pity my country! "We cannot dictate to Kenyans who to vote for, The decision here is up to your judicial system and up to the voters.” Undersecretary of State Wendy Sherman "Whether those indicted by the International Criminal Court are eligible under the Constitution to run for president of Kenya is a decision for the Kenyan courts," The West CANNOT sanction Kenya for electing Uhuruto, it will never happen as long as they are still just suspects. PK is probably the most suitable candidate we have but this is not the way to get votes for him it won't work.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/11/2011 Posts: 240 Location: jamuhuri ya kenya
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there is a heated discussionon his facebook page concerning his marital 'status'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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TAZ wrote:simonkabz wrote:eboomerang wrote:Zimbabwe was once among the most prosperous countries in Africa. Now, due to sanctions and other related effects, they have to deal with such currencies. One Hundred Trillion Dollar BillYou cannot govern a country with ego and arrogance. These situations are real, lets vote wisely. This message should be displayed in every polling station. Before u vote in a suspect just to spite the west, think of the zimbabwe dollar. Some of the diehards will be crying in the toilet n blaming everybody but themselves for a shilling gone to the dogs, n of course the mzungu, who had in fact warned you well in advance. I pity my country! "We cannot dictate to Kenyans who to vote for, The decision here is up to your judicial system and up to the voters.” Undersecretary of State Wendy Sherman "Whether those indicted by the International Criminal Court are eligible under the Constitution to run for president of Kenya is a decision for the Kenyan courts," The West CANNOT sanction Kenya for electing Uhuruto, it will never happen as long as they are still just suspects. PK is probably the most suitable candidate we have but this is not the way to get votes for him it won't work. well put, we should all support who ever will be elected by the majority of kenyans, some in Zimbabwe may be suffering - but life goes on, and the britons have even talked of lifting the sanctions if the next election is peaceful.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 301 Location: Nairobi
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nakujua wrote:TAZ wrote:simonkabz wrote:eboomerang wrote:Zimbabwe was once among the most prosperous countries in Africa. Now, due to sanctions and other related effects, they have to deal with such currencies. One Hundred Trillion Dollar BillYou cannot govern a country with ego and arrogance. These situations are real, lets vote wisely. This message should be displayed in every polling station. Before u vote in a suspect just to spite the west, think of the zimbabwe dollar. Some of the diehards will be crying in the toilet n blaming everybody but themselves for a shilling gone to the dogs, n of course the mzungu, who had in fact warned you well in advance. I pity my country! "We cannot dictate to Kenyans who to vote for, The decision here is up to your judicial system and up to the voters.” Undersecretary of State Wendy Sherman "Whether those indicted by the International Criminal Court are eligible under the Constitution to run for president of Kenya is a decision for the Kenyan courts," The West CANNOT sanction Kenya for electing Uhuruto, it will never happen as long as they are still just suspects. PK is probably the most suitable candidate we have but this is not the way to get votes for him it won't work. well put, we should all support who ever will be elected by the majority of kenyans, some in Zimbabwe may be suffering - but life goes on, and the britons have even talked of lifting the sanctions if the next election is peaceful. You must be joking when you say that "some in Zimbabwe may be suffering -but life goes on". It is not some, the whole country suffers when you have a currency that is extremely devalued and operating in an environment with astronomic levels of inflation. And as said, one needs to keep in mind that Zimbabwe was way developed than Kenya, the situation has degenerated in a very short period of time. If tribalism was a big factor as it is in Kenya, civil war would have broken out as a side effect of economic hardships. As much as we would love to pump ourselves that we are sovereign, independent etc, the reality of the matter is that our economy and monetary system in this case is tightly joined to the rest of the world in particular the US and EU economic systems.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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The West CANNOT sanction Kenya for electing Uhuruto, it will never happen as long as they are still just suspects. PK is probably the most suitable candidate we have but this is not the way to get votes for him it won't work. well put, we should all support who ever will be elected by the majority of kenyans, some in Zimbabwe may be suffering - but life goes on, and the britons have even talked of lifting the sanctions if the next election is peaceful. Where did u get this? CANNOT, kwanza in caps? Give us a link, otherwise all indicators are towards doom and endless gnashing of teeth. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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some in Zimbabwe may be suffering - but life goes on,..... From your analysis of matters football, I suppose u aren't an average voter. Now Guess how the average voter will reason! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 301 Location: Nairobi
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simonkabz wrote:
The West CANNOT sanction Kenya for electing Uhuruto, it will never happen as long as they are still just suspects. PK is probably the most suitable candidate we have but this is not the way to get votes for him it won't work. well put, we should all support who ever will be elected by the majority of kenyans, some in Zimbabwe may be suffering - but life goes on, and the britons have even talked of lifting the sanctions if the next election is peaceful.
Where did u get this? CANNOT, kwanza in caps? Give us a link, otherwise all indicators are towards doom and endless gnashing of teeth.
I was also not convinced that the person understands what they are talking about. On other news, someone posted the caption below on Facebook and I agree with it. Quote:"If Kenyans don't want to experience the Greece story in near future, we need a leader with a clear FISCAL DISCIPLINE mechanism;
A GDP of 3.1trillion
A national debt of 1.4 trillion and still growing. ( note 4years ago it was there about half the current figure)
75% of our budget is for RECURRENT EXPENDITIRE and set to hit 80% by next year.
Pay-rise unrest near from all sectors.
To tackle all this, we need a committed leader, a servant of the people, one who is a performer and one who can articulate the right policies.
Vote Wisely, Vote PK." These are the kind of issues a real national leaders should be agonizing about.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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jimmy1 wrote:there is a heated discussionon his facebook page concerning his marital 'status' Weka kirink. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 301 Location: Nairobi
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It appears we are on the brink of a ballot revolution in Kenya and all for the better of our country. Give it up for citizen TV. I can't believe this was on TV, the link right here .
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 326 Location: Nairobi
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eboomerang wrote:simonkabz wrote:
The West CANNOT sanction Kenya for electing Uhuruto, it will never happen as long as they are still just suspects. PK is probably the most suitable candidate we have but this is not the way to get votes for him it won't work. well put, we should all support who ever will be elected by the majority of kenyans, some in Zimbabwe may be suffering - but life goes on, and the britons have even talked of lifting the sanctions if the next election is peaceful.
Where did u get this? CANNOT, kwanza in caps? Give us a link, otherwise all indicators are towards doom and endless gnashing of teeth.
I was also not convinced that the person understands what they are talking about. On other news, someone posted the caption below on Facebook and I agree with it. Quote:"If Kenyans don't want to experience the Greece story in near future, we need a leader with a clear FISCAL DISCIPLINE mechanism;
A GDP of 3.1trillion
A national debt of 1.4 trillion and still growing. ( note 4years ago it was there about half the current figure)
75% of our budget is for RECURRENT EXPENDITIRE and set to hit 80% by next year.
Pay-rise unrest near from all sectors.
To tackle all this, we need a committed leader, a servant of the people, one who is a performer and one who can articulate the right policies.
Vote Wisely, Vote PK." These are the kind of issues a real national leaders should be agonizing about. @kabz and boomerang, among other PKists are using scare tactics to recruit supporters. Mala Zimbabwe, Mala sanctions by the west...and you are not ashamed! Go learn how to recruit supporters. ABpK!!
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