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CITIZEN GETS IT ALL WRONG!!!
kenmac
#81 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:23:10 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
essyk wrote:
My teacher told us what BODMAS meant.
Brackets Off Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction.

Several years later naona where shida is>>OF/OFF.
This english!!
While to some it meant 'working out what was in the brackets first,to others it meant OF Multiplication.
I blame the teacher.smh



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly .....Mama rudi ngumbaru.....O is for order."Order" refers to exponents (or indices), which means that a term is expressed as something to the power of something else ("52" is the same as saying "five to the power of two") or as the root of something ("√5" is the same as saying "the square root of five").......aaaaarg! i can't get to post five to the power of twoSad

......Ecclesiastes
kenmac
#82 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:26:37 PM
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guka wachana na google.

O ni of
eg.

2/3 of 9/15
......Ecclesiastes
essyk
#83 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:31:05 PM
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smh.cant stop laughing.It's getting more confusing

so who among all these wazuans got it right?
We shall then know those who went to shanderema poy and kal like me and those who went to schools starting with 'THE'




"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Lolest!
#84 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:35:56 PM
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BODMAS was Brackets of Division Multiplication Addition and Subtraction. In that order. There was nothing like left to right rule back then. So I bet any bright class 5 kid will give 13 as the answer.
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Lolest!
#85 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:40:24 PM
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Imefutwa
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essyk
#86 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:05:32 PM
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@Laughing out loudly I dont think he said that.
He wasn't able to write 5 to the power of 2 so he wrote '52' instead. I am sure he knows its 25.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
tycho
#87 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:19:43 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
tycho wrote:
21-6+2= 21-(6+2)= 21-6-2= 21-8= 13.


Wrong!

21-6+2= 21-(6-2)=21-4= 17


Thank you @jaggernaut. The Man God has plenty of debugging to do.

Or maybe the best the best thing is to do away with all programs and keep an empty head.










Impunity
#88 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:21:30 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
BODMAS was Brackets of Division Multiplication Addition and Subtraction. In that order. There was nothing like left to right rule back then. So I bet any bright class 5 kid will give 13 as the answer.


Is 21-6+2

the same as

21+2-6 ???

d'oh! d'oh!
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Lolest!
#89 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:31:41 PM
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essyk wrote:
@Laughing out loudly I dont think he said that.
He wasn't able to write 5 to the power of 2 so he wrote '52' instead. I am sure he knows its 25.


my bad Sad
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jaggernaut
#90 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:03:18 PM
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1 + 1 = 11
Tebes
#91 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:27:59 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Im soo with @mwenza on this.
Pls lets use our akili!
17 it is!
Evn Bodmas is used with akili!

Which akili if you can't follow its priority procedure?
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
richdad
#92 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:02:38 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
BODMAS was Brackets of Division Multiplication Addition and Subtraction. In that order. There was nothing like left to right rule back then. So I bet any bright class 5 kid will give 13 as the answer.


Is 21-6+2

the same as

21+2-6 ???

d'oh! d'oh!



Same answer.....17

Its positive 21, negative 6 and positive 2 in a "liner arithmetic problem" whichever way you solve it smile

Keep it simple
Gadaffi
#93 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:53:17 PM
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The issue right here is what standards 2 use while solving tis problem. Any answer given here can b correct bt it depends on what standard one has used.
If u use the KNEC standards on BODMAS which do NOT have the have th left to right rule then th ans is justifibly 13!!!!
murchr
#94 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:55:51 PM
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94.....and counting
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Mukiri
#95 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:04:03 PM
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Isn't 13 an unlucky number? Wouldn't repeating it so many time jinx wazua? My answer is henceforth revised and stands with @simonkabz, 14. Even if names are called.

Proverbs 19:21
Impunity
#96 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 10:13:41 AM
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richdad wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
BODMAS was Brackets of Division Multiplication Addition and Subtraction. In that order. There was nothing like left to right rule back then. So I bet any bright class 5 kid will give 13 as the answer.


Is 21-6+2

the same as

21+2-6 ???

d'oh! d'oh!



Same answer.....17

Its positive 21, negative 6 and positive 2 in a "liner arithmetic problem" whichever way you solve it smile



Nditto.

17 is the last and final answer, no more comments please.

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King G
#97 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 10:44:47 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
Isn't 13 an unlucky number? Wouldn't repeating it so many time jinx wazua? My answer is henceforth revised and stands with @simonkabz, 14. Even if names are called.


Agreed, 14 looks ok to me! Kwanza which base are you guys using?
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King G
#98 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 10:46:41 AM
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Impunity wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
tycho wrote:
21-6+2= 21-(6+2)= 21-6-2= 21-8= 13.


Wrong!

21-6+2= 21-(6-2)=21-4= 17


@McReggae and I got the answer to this sum loooong time ago (ingawa he scored a strong D-plane in the final KCSE exam smile )

negative6 positive2 ndio watu wamechidwo kuerewa.

Sad


Plane? Which one is that, kizungu nayo?
Thieves
McReggae
#99 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 11:05:30 AM
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Correct answer is 17......those stuck with lower primo BODMAS will insist 13!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
tycho
#100 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 11:17:50 AM
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tycho wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
tycho wrote:
21-6+2= 21-(6+2)= 21-6-2= 21-8= 13.


Wrong!

21-6+2= 21-(6-2)=21-4= 17


Thank you @jaggernaut. The Man God has plenty of debugging to do.

Or maybe the best the best thing is to do away with all programs and keep an empty head.



I have been trying to look at this bug, and the results are fascinating.

First, why did I insert the brackets? I saw myself inserting the brackets. The event was fast and 'automatic', almost irrational. It was much later that I began to see the effects of my decision.

At this point the issue at hand ceases to be purely mathematical. For mathematics is a language that strictly depends on my motives and intentions. That is, we are now looking at my mind.

Or rather, we are now looking at the mind that was learning BODMAS then.

I learned BODMAS when I was four years old, at home. And so it is easy for you to understand when I say that my teacher saw no other way of making me learn other than using pain as a motivator.

BODMAS is about ordering. And one lesson I learned 'wrongly' is that of using the bracket as an ordering tool. Little did I know that the more order you create, the more the complications!

Again, order can only be created arbitrarily for the human always has imperfect information at any instance.

That is, humans cannot be perfectly rational while the systems he has created demand perfect rationality.

But there's Arrow's impossibility theorem that can be stated simply as there is no ordering system that is fair or even 'good enough'.

The above theorem posits three criteria of fairness, of which two deal with the transitivity of an individual's preferences to group and a third one, that of the absence of a 'dictator'.

In this BODMAS problem, Citizen dictated, then Wazua protested, then Wazuans began to protest amongst themselves. And even now as we look at this protest 'KNEC' and calculators have already been consulted.

That brings us to the 'Spirit of the times' central authority is under great pressure, or rather, we no longer have a central authority for anything. That is, the citizen will always get it wrong.

This line of thought has great implications to every facet of Society, an ordinal system, but I don't want to write so long a letter!
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