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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Im soo with @mwenza on this. Pls lets use our akili! 17 it is! Evn Bodmas is used with akili! I also see this is the answer. I stand corrected.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,634
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No wonder teachers take to drink. Kwani mlisomea kwa dirisha? The answer is 17 "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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washiku wrote:Hahahaha...Let me try:
21-3×2+4÷2= BODMAS Applies...so we start with Division=4/2=2 That gives us 21-3*2+2 Again BODMAS comes in---3*2=6 That gives us 21-6+2 Again BODMAS----leads to 21-8 Finally answer comes to 13.
So how answer is 13..... Negative 6 positive 2 cannot be and infact has never been equal to negative 8. NEVER EVER. But negative 4 is njess! The answer is one7. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Ok its 15. closed "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Even multiplication and division are on the same level...consider this... 6 / 2 is the same as 6*1/2...in a plain expression, the default order of operations is left to right when oerations are on the same level...and since maths is a precise science, if you want another part of the equation to supercede the left to right order, you draw some brackets enclosing that part ...which will then give it preference. Its an explicit thing, the fine print counts, like a law contract. With this one I am going to go with 17 (the original citizen equation).  For those who feel strongly that it conflicts with math instructed in primary school, I will remind you of physics in seco ...you were told light is a wave ...then in university for those who took courses with physics units...you were then told light is particles (quanta). Like someone said, bodmas is evaluated in context, it is too complicated for children. Another example ...if you did an equation where the divisor was zero you got zero for a the final result ...that was OK up until form 4 ....but to split hairs the final result is not zero ...it is indeterminate/undefined. I had a professor who would fail you if you wrote zero at the end of such an operation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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quicksand wrote:Even multiplication and division are on the same level...consider this... 6 / 2 is the same as 6*1/2...in a plain expression, the default order of operations is left to right when oerations are on the same level...and since maths is a precise science, if you want another part of the equation to supercede the left to right order, you draw some brackets enclosing that part ...which will then give it preference. Its an explicit thing, the fine print counts, like a law contract. With this one I am going to go with 17 (the original citizen equation).  For those who feel strongly that it conflicts with math instructed in primary school, I will remind you of physics in seco ...you were told light is a wave ...then in university for those who took courses with physics units...you were then told light is particles (quanta). Like someone said, bodmas is evaluated in context, it is too complicated for children. Another example ...if you did an equation where the divisor was zero you got zero for a the final result ...that was OK up until form 4 ....but to split hairs the final result is not zero ...it is indeterminate/undefined. I had a professor who would fail you if you wrote zero at the end of such an operation. work it out "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/12/2010 Posts: 474 Location: Nairobi
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A number takes the sign before it (If no sign then its positive  ). (Class 3 Maths.) When presented with different arithmetic signs, use the acronym BODMAS....I don't know how some fellows make it in life if they can not get this. Keep it simple
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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I must have been sent home for fees when they taught BODMAS  , don't remember it. But if you apply it, answer is 13
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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 ... Parents parents parents......It's never too late to go back to school. Addition and subtraction are at the same level just as division and multiplication is.Here,the left to right rule takes over,hence, 21-6+2 i as simple as that....17.If you got anything other than that,wewe ni ndongomothi  . Let's try another one,parents. 11-5+8=??? And did someone post here that the O in BODMAS stands for OFF/OF??? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/28/2008 Posts: 2,276 Location: Kibish
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11-5+8=14 Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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My teacher told us what BODMAS meant. Brackets Off Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction. Several years later naona where shida is>>OF/OFF. This english!! While to some it meant 'working out what was in the brackets first,to others it meant OF Multiplication. I blame the teacher.smh "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/28/2012 Posts: 18 Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere
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In the spirit of the new constitution, I propose a compromise. Let's take the average of 13 and 17 ....... (13+17)/2 = 15You find me offensive? I find you offensive for finding me offensive
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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tycho wrote:21-6+2= 21-(6+2)= 21-6-2= 21-8= 13. Wrong! 21-6+2= 21-(6-2)=21-4= 17
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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chevapravatdumrong wrote:In the spirit of the new constitution, I propose a compromise. Let's take the average of 13 and 17 ....... (13+17)/2 = 15 that name looks soo qw.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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jaggernaut wrote:tycho wrote:21-6+2= 21-(6+2)= 21-6-2= 21-8= 13. Wrong! 21-6+2= 21-(6-2)=21-4= 17 @McReggae and I got the answer to this sum loooong time ago (ingawa he scored a strong D-plane in the final KCSE exam  ) negative6 positive2 ndio watu wamechidwo kuerewa. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/28/2012 Posts: 18 Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere
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No wonder Kenya is still a third world country....... people can't comprehend that 21-6+2 ≠ 21-(6+2)You find me offensive? I find you offensive for finding me offensive
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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chevapravatdumrong wrote:No wonder Kenya is still a third world country....... people can't comprehend that 21-6+2 ≠ 21-(6+2) 21-6+2 = 21+(-6)+(+2) = 21-6+2 = 21+2-6 = 23-6 = 17 Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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 eti order? I should sue our primo maths teacher.Do a random thing on the streets and ask how many people know that. They would tell you it's off or of. I am going back to where it all began! Primary And how the heck did we pass? Somebody give this to Wahu wa Nameless. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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