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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Love is the Creator. Money is the created. So if there's a problem it is not one of exclusion.
Love is about being, money on the other hand is the economic system that facilitates being. So both sustain each other.
What is the problem then?
Problems arise when the Creator is not relating with the created consciously. This is so much so in 'artificial' economy that runs on 'tramped up' needs. For example, it is very difficult to meet a person who is living within his means and more so, you'll find the person too eager to have the latest and luxurious items. This pursuit of luxury and conformity to advertisers and Jones's has reversed roles and now man becomes the creation and money, the Creator. And since love implies the power to create relationships will break immediately there's a money scarcity. And in fact, the more relationships break, the poorer people become and the more destruction becomes imminent.
But if one is conscious of his/her being and role, then money cannot be the problem it seems to be. For!? money is created under trust, conversation, empathy. . . Love.
This is why the Bible says, you cannot love both God and money you must love one and hate the other. That is, if there's a reason to love, let the reason be love.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Kaigangio wrote:essyk wrote:...Without refering to personal experiences,... ...@ essyk...this is where you youngans go wrong...if one cannot advise you from experience why would you want to rely on hypotheses for advise especially on issues related to opposite sex unions??? just take it this way, a spinster cannot tell you about matrimonial set up neither can a bachelor...I therefore expect that all that you are reading here that is not motivated by experience, is just but uncalled for theories... I will give you a story that my grandpa gave me a long time ago....that...one day a hegoat (mahegoat divide by ma..  ) fell sick and every one of the she goat came to know about it...the she goats decided to go and visit him as hegoat was their long time friend... on the appointed date they went to see the hegoat and they were fully adorned and beautiful indeed. unfortunately, where he was held inpatient could only accommodate one extra animal...So the first she goat went in and after a couple of minutes she came out...very quiet with the mouth hard shut...The other she goats tried to ask her what she had seen,but she remained quiet and would not open her mouth to talk...eventually when she opened her mouth to talk she told them to go right in and find out for themselves...she went her own way. The second one went in and she came out with a facial appearance resembling the first one and she said the same thing...the third, the fourth...till the last one...experience!!! @ guka...tell them!!! Will be back!!! ...thats where the wazee,s go wrong no disrespect,just coz someone iz young doesnt negate the kind of advice he/she can give rem I learn from those who are ahead of me,making me bigger and better. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/25/2009 Posts: 973
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tycho wrote:if there's a reason to love, let the reason be love. I like! Will print out a t-shirt with those words and wear it on all my dates. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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I believe you are not able to feel that emotion called LOVE if you are constantly on an empty stomach and not out of choice but out of circumstances such as lack of money to buy food. How would you feel love when you are always thinking of ridding yourself of those hunger pangs?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/25/2009 Posts: 973
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essyk wrote:rock wrote:So society is also to blame for campus divas et al? please tell me what you think. What I know is that 'many' girls join campus with principles reaching up to the sky. Then things take a sudden turn once they have familiarised themselves with the sorroudings. Not only in campus, but it happens in life; the workplace,church,politics etc. It's personal vs society battle. This is more about personal choice and ones character and not social influence.I think peer pressure would be the most specific factor.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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maka wrote:Kaigangio wrote:essyk wrote:...Without refering to personal experiences,... ...@ essyk...this is where you youngans go wrong...if one cannot advise you from experience why would you want to rely on hypotheses for advise especially on issues related to opposite sex unions??? just take it this way, a spinster cannot tell you about matrimonial set up neither can a bachelor...I therefore expect that all that you are reading here that is not motivated by experience, is just but uncalled for theories... I will give you a story that my grandpa gave me a long time ago....that...one day a hegoat (mahegoat divide by ma.. ) fell sick and every one of the she goat came to know about it...the she goats decided to go and visit him as hegoat was their long time friend... on the appointed date they went to see the hegoat and they were fully adorned and beautiful indeed. unfortunately, where he was held inpatient could only accommodate one extra animal...So the first she goat went in and after a couple of minutes she came out...very quiet with the mouth hard shut...The other she goats tried to ask her what she had seen,but she remained quiet and would not open her mouth to talk...eventually when she opened her mouth to talk she told them to go right in and find out for themselves...she went her own way. The second one went in and she came out with a facial appearance resembling the first one and she said the same thing...the third, the fourth...till the last one...experience!!! @ guka...tell them!!! Will be back!!! ...thats where the wazee,s go wrong no disrespect,just coz someone iz young doesnt negate the kind of advice he/she can give rem I learn from those who are ahead of me,making me bigger and better. @ maka...no wonder the society is falling apart not because the elders/wazees are not advising the youth but because the youth does not want to listen...some things will never change no matter how you look at them... If you are a believer in the Bible i suggest you read the book 1 Kings 12:1-19...come back and tell me, "hey kaigangio, you were wrong!!!" ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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josiah33 wrote:I believe you are not able to feel that emotion called LOVE if you are constantly on an empty stomach and not out of choice but out of circumstances such as lack of money to buy food. How would you feel love when you are always thinking of ridding yourself of those hunger pangs? Love is not just an emotional experience. It also includes beliefs, intentions, ideas, expectations, and of course 'sanctioned' interpersonal relations. But let one say to himself, 'I will eat first then love'. He won't escape the fate of the beast for he will either be a cannibal or a robber. The other alternative of course is to live on the fringes as a sex worker. But even if one escapes these categories he must take a role that calls for pursed lips at all times and plenty of drugs to keep 'stress' away. Either way, one will have to sell his soul to the devil.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Kaigangio wrote:maka wrote:Kaigangio wrote:essyk wrote:...Without refering to personal experiences,... ...@ essyk...this is where you youngans go wrong...if one cannot advise you from experience why would you want to rely on hypotheses for advise especially on issues related to opposite sex unions??? just take it this way, a spinster cannot tell you about matrimonial set up neither can a bachelor...I therefore expect that all that you are reading here that is not motivated by experience, is just but uncalled for theories... I will give you a story that my grandpa gave me a long time ago....that...one day a hegoat (mahegoat divide by ma.. ) fell sick and every one of the she goat came to know about it...the she goats decided to go and visit him as hegoat was their long time friend... on the appointed date they went to see the hegoat and they were fully adorned and beautiful indeed. unfortunately, where he was held inpatient could only accommodate one extra animal...So the first she goat went in and after a couple of minutes she came out...very quiet with the mouth hard shut...The other she goats tried to ask her what she had seen,but she remained quiet and would not open her mouth to talk...eventually when she opened her mouth to talk she told them to go right in and find out for themselves...she went her own way. The second one went in and she came out with a facial appearance resembling the first one and she said the same thing...the third, the fourth...till the last one...experience!!! @ guka...tell them!!! Will be back!!! ...thats where the wazee,s go wrong no disrespect,just coz someone iz young doesnt negate the kind of advice he/she can give rem I learn from those who are ahead of me,making me bigger and better. @ maka...no wonder the society is falling apart not because the elders/wazees are not advising the youth but because the youth does not want to listen...some things will never change no matter how you look at them... If you are a believer in the Bible i suggest you read the book 1 Kings 12:1-19...come back and tell me, "hey kaigangio, you were wrong!!!" ...maybe i should have rephrased as you rightly put it,wazee should be listened but shoukd you pick everythn?if a mzee goes out hanyaring' ndogo ndogos living the wife at home he has no right to tell me anythn about being faithful possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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hehehe Kaigangio.Even my dad listens to my advice. Well not always but at times when he knows am serious. Some old wazees with their advice? smh! Ok so what was in the HEGOAT'S room? You better finish it up. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,723
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essyk wrote:
Ok so what was in the HEGOAT'S room? You better finish it up.
You still don't get it Essyk?!! What was in the HEGOATS room could only be known by those who went in. We did not go in, Kaigangio did not go in. Only the she goats went in and not one of them talked so we do not know what was in there but each of the She goats that went in KNEW and KNOWS. Got it?!
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