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Spitze
#401 Posted : Monday, October 01, 2012 8:17:17 PM
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Hi Wazuans, What is the effect of using hand-made ballast (ile vijana wanatengeneza na nyundo) as opposed to machined ballast on the quality of foundation? A friend tells me the trick is to mix the two types to save on cost. But is it worth it?
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#402 Posted : Monday, October 01, 2012 8:39:17 PM
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what i can say is that my fundis prefer it and have never encountered any probem ever since i started using it
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#403 Posted : Monday, October 01, 2012 10:06:23 PM
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cracks cracks cracks, usijaribu!
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#404 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:53:23 AM
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Hi Wazuans, how long should I wait after the first floor slab of a maisonette is done before I start putting up walls on that first floor? Is there any effects if I do it before the 21 days given are over? Kindly let me have your advice.
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#405 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:42:15 AM
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Engineer, I thought you should be telling us?

I guess you can koroga on Sato [06/Oct/12].... slab ipewe maji ya kutosha for the week after and start building on the Monday [15/Oct/12]

Don't remove the form-work. continue watering.
Don't quote me if anything goes wrong

Eng. Kamau wrote:
Hi Wazuans, how long should I wait after the first floor slab of a maisonette is done before I start putting up walls on that first floor? Is there any effects if I do it before the 21 days given are over? Kindly let me have your advice.

"..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
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#406 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:43:13 AM
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GGK wrote:
Engineer, I thought you should be telling us?

I guess you can koroga on Sato [06/Oct/12].... slab ipewe maji ya kutosha for the week after and start building on the Monday [15/Oct/12]

Don't remove the form-work. continue watering.
Don't quote me if anything goes wrong

Eng. Kamau wrote:
Hi Wazuans, how long should I wait after the first floor slab of a maisonette is done before I start putting up walls on that first floor? Is there any effects if I do it before the 21 days given are over? Kindly let me have your advice.




@GG follow Engineer's prescription kama dawa strictly.
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Spitze
#407 Posted : Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:55:14 PM
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Foz00 wrote:
cracks cracks cracks, usijaribu!


Thanks a lot for the advice, will avoid it
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Wakanyugi
#408 Posted : Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:48:31 PM
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I have been made to understand that slab work has to be done all at once, usually in a single day.

My neighbor is constructing a multistory building - a hotel I am told.

The fundis and KYM's have been working on the second floor slab for four days now (it is a big project).

What gives?


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#409 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 1:53:27 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
I have been made to understand that slab work has to be done all at once, usually in a single day.

My neighbor is constructing a multistory building - a hotel I am told.

The fundis and KYM's have been working on the second floor slab for four days now (it is a big project).

What gives?



There is no problem as long is subdivided and do the whole part
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#410 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 3:47:16 PM
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Spitze wrote:
Hi Wazuans, What is the effect of using hand-made ballast (ile vijana wanatengeneza na nyundo) as opposed to machined ballast on the quality of foundation? A friend tells me the trick is to mix the two types to save on cost. But is it worth it?

Your friend is right.You will need to mix with one or two other sizes. Depending on where you are using(slab,beams,foundations etc) you will need advice on the ratio of sand and cement to use with it.
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#411 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 3:53:37 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
I have been made to understand that slab work has to be done all at once, usually in a single day.

My neighbor is constructing a multistory building - a hotel I am told.

The fundis and KYM's have been working on the second floor slab for four days now (it is a big project).

What gives?



Depending on the size of the slab,a day may not be possible,hence a construction joint is provided.Also for slab with movement joints,you can do it in stages.
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Wakanyugi
#412 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 7:35:47 PM
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Thanks African coloner and Keke2.

I took a quick look today and noticed they have divided the slab into four sections. Each piece was cast on its own day.

Clever

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Mo
#413 Posted : Tuesday, October 09, 2012 5:20:54 PM
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wazuans,
does anyone have an idea where i can get quality bathroom glass doors from? ...with or without aluminium frames

many thanks
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#414 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:06:00 PM
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Amicus Curiae wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Amicus Curiae wrote:
gotieno wrote:
I have truly learnt alot on construction from you all. I have just began my construction of 300 sq metre maisonnete in Kisumu and have applied most of advice from this posts. Keep up the good spirit of Wazua!

Co-signed. I've been a ghost reader of the contents of this topic and I must say it's quite informative. It encouraged me to kick off my 295sqm 4-br Massionette in Ruiru By-pass area. It's one week now and I've just finished constructing a site house and a 4000L underground tank which will store water for construction and later be covered to be a reservoir. Keep the posts coming.


How is the construction going on for both of you?

@jaggernaut Mine is progressing well so far. We are joining the trappers and all for the slab. So far spent 1.2M; upto foundation slab 750K, walling 200K and the first floor slab has so far cost 250K.I expect the slab to cost another 250K to make it a total of 500K.
Breakdown upto foundation slab: Design and approvals 100K, Site House 25K, Water connection 35K,Tools (Wheel barrow, spades, mattocks etc)10K, Labour for foundation trenches 25K Hard Kamba moja stones - 5 lorries 75K, Sand 64ton 70K, ballast 40ton 60K, cement 130bags 87K, Y12 n others 80K, Mixer hire twice(foundation strip and slab)35K, Masons+Kym+foreman Labor 2wks 50K, misc 10K.

@amicus mind sharing your email address?
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#415 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:59:50 PM
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Amicus Curiae
#416 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 6:17:56 PM
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How is the construction going on for both of you?[/quote]
@jaggernaut Mine is progressing well so far. We are joining the trappers and all for the slab. So far spent 1.2M; upto foundation slab 750K, walling 200K and the first floor slab has so far cost 250K.I expect the slab to cost another 250K to make it a total of 500K.
Breakdown upto foundation slab: Design and approvals 100K, Site House 25K, Water connection 35K,Tools (Wheel barrow, spades, mattocks etc)10K, Labour for foundation trenches 25K Hard Kamba moja stones - 5 lorries 75K, Sand 64ton 70K, ballast 40ton 60K, cement 130bags 87K, Y12 n others 80K, Mixer hire twice(foundation strip and slab)35K, Masons+Kym+foreman Labor 2wks 50K, misc 10K. [/quote]
@amicus mind sharing your email address?[/quote]
@Kamundu karue.mwai at gmail.com
I've reached the critical stage of roofing. Walling for first floor was a bit slower than tha of ground floor. Will be updating you on costs. I'm using clay tiles so timber cost was a bit shocking despite shopping over 4 timber yards. So far timber has cost over 150k

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#417 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:39:16 PM
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Where can i get a good deal for windows and doors za chuma?
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Mo
#418 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:31:50 AM
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jamplu wrote:
Where can i get a good deal for windows and doors za chuma?

@jamplu, dont go for deals go for quality. most of these road side artisans are very poor fabricators...along thika road i can give you a contact.
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#419 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:52:06 AM
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Mo wrote:
jamplu wrote:
Where can i get a good deal for windows and doors za chuma?

@jamplu, dont go for deals go for quality. most of these road side artisans are very poor fabricators...along thika road i can give you a contact.


@Mo I wouldn't mind the contacts am looking for quality and fair price. email jampluatyahoodotcom
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muthurimugi
#420 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:09:08 PM
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jamplu wrote:
Where can i get a good deal for windows and doors za chuma?



Try Canton Steel Fabricators in Industry-Area, they make quality steel casement windows at good rates. contact 0202197055
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