Apparently people at SK are not bothered with new constitution? Any thread posted on this topic ends up receiving little or no attention…



Yet,even though CKRC have their little failings; they have shown great flexibility in accommodating views any reasonable views. For instance,I hear they have now done away with the 14 regions,have tried level best to dilute presidential powers,etc,etc. However,there are some glaring ‘unwise’ recommendations,eg.

· Leader of part with majority MPs to become PM – This is unwise,since,there is no criteria (to my knowledge) on how this leader will be elected – is it be grassroots or by delegates and does leader refer to chairman? If this guy is not elected directly,doesn’t that leave the masses with very little control on who becomes the PM? What then is the purpose of voting. Why not follow somewhat the same procedure used in electing the speaker of national assembly. This way we do away with alignments and realignments aka coalition arrangements which serve no good?

· President not to get intelligence briefings – If there is insurgency brewing somewhere,how will president get to know? Yet he’s the one supposed to command the armed forces?

· President not to chair cabinet – How will he know what is happening in govt at any one time?

Come on,I believe it is here at SK that we can come up with very wise recommendations to these issues. Someone can then compile them and submit to CKRC. Am sure CKRC will be willing to accommodate them if sensible,and we will have done our part at this point in time.


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@Baak - perhaps its not just SK but as Kenyans we are all rather fatigued by the 'draft constitution'. I'm willing to wager,in the next week or so there will be opposition to certain elements and fresh brouhaha will erupt once again - noise mainly driven by politicians seeking to protect those aspects of the constitution that allow them to continue to exist as fat cats and proect their own existence. What did it cost us before to come up with a draft? and where did it get us? I am a firm believer that we as Kenyans,cannot AFFORD to be democratic - lets leave that to first world countries who have the money to spend. Right now,even with an IMMACULATE constitution,people will remain hungry,displaced,wronged,etc - we need to focus on other things - just not the constitution. We can do that later when wanjiku has other basic rights to food,shelter,justice,etc. And I think it can be done in the absence of a constitution....if it takes a dictatorship - so be it. If it takes a firm grip like Muammar Abumeniar Al Quadhaffi...so be it. Having said that,I do not think we will have a new constitution in the next 5-10 years....not as long as there are always sideshows like the hague,passats,etccccc

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@Djinn
It will be uploaded on the 'committee of Experts' website (coekenya.go.ke) after the official launch.
@Njunge
I think the constitution can sort most of the things ailing this nation. If it can't then something's wrong with it.

...ili iwe funzo!

se also

http://www.stockskenya.c...?stk=1002&top=18927


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@ Mtaalam,

The new constitution (if there will be any) will not help sort out our problems. In fact,based on the proposals that have been made,I think it will just bring more problems to our beloved country.

We know our main problems - the land question,corruption,impunity,mismanagement,tribalism,nepotism,outright theft of public resources etc.

The constitution cannot do anything about that if our people will not respect it. No one in the current crop of leaders is ready to bring meaningful change ..... kilammoja anafikiri tumbo lake peke yake .......



All beginnings are difficult ..... ..... everything has an end,only a sausage has two.

Here is the draft finally.

http://www.coekenya.go.k..._Draft_Constitution.pdf



Study,make submissions to the committee of experts within 30 days.



Work like you will die tomorrow,plan like you will never die

Is there a clause on recalling of Mpigs?

Old man about town....

We can talk of this model versus that model. Yote ni bure kabisa. What kenyans need is an assurance for justice then we can beginning talking.

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