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Peter Kenneth
2012
#61 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:47:07 PM
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rock wrote:
Let people vote for who they want.I dont buy this 2 horse race business,thats brainwashing kenyans.


PK's best chance in my opinion is as a running mate and not the top seat.

I think it will be a two horse race going by the just concluded by-elections. I think the 2013 elections are already too complex and most people will vote on party lines handing important positions especially of Governor and Senator to the vultures.

BBI will solve it
:)
Dash
#62 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:00:14 PM
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limanika wrote:
kyt wrote:
you know i asked myself the same question abt PK jana? why dont we elect him? are we kenyan doomed and cursed to self destruction? sad!!!

He has done well in gatanga but national politics is different ball game. He is still young, I think he should go for muranga governership this time round and contest 2023


So? we leave the older ones to eat to their fill?
rock
#63 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:14:01 PM
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2012 wrote:
rock wrote:
Let people vote for who they want.I dont buy this 2 horse race business,thats brainwashing kenyans.


PK's best chance in my opinion is as a running mate and not the top seat.
I think it will be a two horse race going by the just concluded by-elections. I think the 2013 elections are already too complex and most people will vote on party lines handing important positions especially of Governor and Senator to the vultures.
Yes it will.We have been preconditioned to believe its either/or.
2012
#64 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:26:46 PM
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rock wrote:
Yes it will.We have been preconditioned to believe its either/or.



It's not about preconditions. It happens almost everywhere in the world. Two parties always emerge and the others only help to tie-break. even in the last elections choices were many but two parties stood out.

BBI will solve it
:)
McReggae
#65 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:30:33 PM
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2012 wrote:
rock wrote:
Yes it will.We have been preconditioned to believe its either/or.



It's not about preconditions. It happens almost everywhere in the world. Two parties always emerge and the others only help to tie-break. even in the last elections choices were many but two parties stood out.


Ditto!!!

People forget that from 2002 it has been about two strong parties and this for me will continue!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
mdudu
#66 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:39:37 PM
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An interesting opinion


Matalanga Makokha25 September 2012 12:17 PM

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Analysts have gotten it all wrong. Unless something major happens between now and March of next year, whether you initially vote for Ole Kiyapi or Musalia Mudavadi, finally you will have to vote again-for either Raila Odinga or Uhuru Kenyatta. The two horses. Or you may choose not to vote. In the second round, it will not matter what Ruto, or Mudavadi or whoever will tell his supporters to vote for. It will come down to the phobias. "Kikuyuphobia" and "Railaphobia" with a few other considerations thrown in. It is a two horse race.

rock
#67 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:00:05 PM
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Sawa.You guys have massacred my theory.Sad
Iganamagana
#68 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:00:52 PM
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I think its high time to give up on Kenya. Going by opinions on this thread, Kenyans would rather elect two useless horses that will further balkanize the nation rather than a proven resources manager.Besides vitandewili and massaging the egos of the two horses, what do they sincerely have to offer? What have they offered except amassing/inheriting personal fortunes. Mukhisa Kituyi, Paul Tergat, Kipngetich of Wildlife, Raphael Tuju et al have achieved much more than these two horses. Before you vote, I beseech you to visit Gatanga and see for yourself what good management can achieve. It can not all be attributed to PK but those fellows have better quality life than most middle class arm chair contributors here. Running water, smooth roads, security,and a green environment. When did you last take a shower using "overhead water" middle class Kilimani residents? They do it in Ndakaini, Kiarutara, Gatunyu and Kihumbuini? Na mko Nairobi! Its all about leadership dear Kenyans.
Kausha
#69 Posted : Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:09:29 PM
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@iganamagana, I am inclined to take up your suggestion. We just give up on Kenya and wait for Jesus to return with salvation. It looks we are fighting with ethnic bravado which unfortunately apart from saying tumemachida is guranteed to take us backwards. The Kenyan Curse is its middle class, well educated but opts to exercise selective illiteracy come elections. From the views allover it appears we will have the same two horses during the run off. If it ends so I can promise I will not waste my time voting because of the two there is nothing to chose. I also wonder, why Gema obsesses about UK yet his father impoverished the community for himself and family and it's the same wealth UK is using on us poor people to ask us to vote to preserve it? On Agwambo the last 5 years has shown he nolonger represents the principles and philosophies of Jaramogi. He got caught up in the pleasure of amassing wealth for himself. His old man was something close to a saint,a man willing to forsake himself for the rest of all of us to the last day of his life. This is something Tinga will never be after tasting wealth from Moi's and kibaki's governments.
maka
#70 Posted : Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:34:06 PM
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Maybe we are just thick headed,then you get someone telling you maisha ni ngumu na serikali haifanyi chochote,how will it do something when the people elected are just there to cut deals and fatten themselves,we have eyes but we do not see we have ears but do not hear and for that may we continue facing all the problems we are having...
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