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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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This is the reason why Everyone is going to Somali: http://m.upi.com/story/UPI-81601330635213/
http://www.raceandhistor...fig.pl/noframes/read/15
My hopes are that KDF and AMISOM are not being used as dispensable spanner boys to secure the resource for the big boys. The Kenyans, Ugandans and Burundians need to take a hard look at themselves and ask WHATS IN IT FOR ME? They must not lose their soldiers in vain while the Brits and Americans move in to claim their blocks. Capitalism is a bitch! Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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There is a lot at stake for Kenya.As an ordinary kenyan this is what. -I am interested in seeing somalis go back and rebuild their country since cz they have stretched other nation's resources to the maximum. -I want Eastleigh to cease being a mini somalia. -I want residential property prices to stop skyrocketizng cz of them. -I hate being called a monkey in my own country by a race which feels superior than all bantus. They hate blacks and that makes me sick. -Very soon they will overtake us in numbers because the rate at which they reproduce is shocking. -Kenya may soon become a muslim nation because of the high number of madrassa classes opening up in what used to be churches,private homes,chief's camps,shops,schools,etc etc. If KDF will ensure somali is safe for their return,I really don't worry much about what happens thereafter. They can fight for their own country's resources after we have stabilised ours. Playing host to a suffering nation has done us more harm than good. If asked,KDF is fighting to depopulate them from kenya. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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@ essyk, you have made me laugh out loud.Are you discriminated upon in your own country ? chuckle. But i agree,they need to go back and rebuild their country. BUT,these are the same guys who wanted to kill president elect on day two.:(
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/18/2011 Posts: 459
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Some of the economies that are growing faster than others in Africa are those of Ghana and Angola and in both cases it's because of oil discoveries. I assume that these two countries signed contracts with oil drilling companies that had terms that were fair to both parties(Country and mining company.) If therefore Somalia is liberated and they too get into oil explorations contracts that have their interests incorporated they would stand to benefit from the oil finds. Otherwise if they keep on fighting like they have in the last 20 years it's basically loose,loose situation with the exception of a few warlords.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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yep fam Told to go pick cotton.Read their forums. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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essyk wrote:There is a lot at stake for Kenya.As an ordinary kenyan this is what. -I am interested in seeing somalis go back... Be specific. We have Kenyan Somalis. Why are you reacting like the Tanzanians, saying Kenyans will take our land and women when they heard that East Africa Community was being revived? essyk wrote:-Very soon they will overtake us in numbers because the rate at which they reproduce is shocking... What are you doing about it? The last time I heard, some of you are still alone in their cribs. Where are your essyklets? Things are changing now my friend, no need for you to be bitter. You just need to recognize the demographic realities.But as long as people remain copy-cats of the West, just aping the fading family tabias of the West! There is no chance to reverse the trend, because people are now too busy chasing the world than having meaningful family life (including child manufacturing)!For your information, fertility rate in native French, Britons, Americans etc has gone down, average of 1 child per couple. Pay attention and let me show you what is happening: - if two sets of parent, each have one child, they end up with half as many children as parents (2 -> 1) - if those children have one child, then their are one-fourth as many grand children as grand parents (4 -> 2 -> 1)Now if a million babies are born in these countries in a year, it is hard to get two million adults in the workforce in the years that follow! - That's why you see inward migration into their countries to meet required workforce in their countries. - That's why you see churches, closing down because only the old are going to church. - The young are busy with rap, fashion and modernism! - As a result, the churches sell their land and guess who is buying? Do you blame them? The other people (you are bitter with) are busy instilling God's rights in their everyday lifestyle. They have God in their minds when they do everything; - when they wake up in the morning, - greeting another person - having a meal, - drinking glass of water, - taking shower, - visiting the toilet, - entering the mosque - sneezing - leaving the hse, - entering in the hse, - starting journey, - starting a job, - etc And their women's fertility rate is 2.8. And their women value their family unit And their women respect their husbands And their women respect what belongs to their husbands (including their bodies)! And their women love 'bedminton'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Quote:Be specific. We have Kenyan Somalis. Thanks. The refugees and those that are here illegally. It's the way they disregard our cops and protray us as greedy since most bribed to acquire PP.Surely that is not breaking news. Boasting about that exploit to the entire world is demeaning cz it proves they can be bought easy. Quote: Where are your essyklets? This funny question is proof that online personalities discombobulate people.But let's leave private stuff where they belong cz forums imho are like psv. Quote: - That's why you see churches, closing down because only the old are going to church. - The young are busy with rap, fashion and modernism! - As a result, the churches sell their land and guess who is buying? Do you blame them?
My focus was Kenya! not Europe. The situation here is reverse. While churches are sold in the west for lack of worshippers,here they are sold for greed. And you know the offer is pretty irresistable. Infact as I type this,some relative begged me find a somali house buyer cz they will part with a big sum. *thinking commission* "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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essyk,where is the house situated?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Mogadishu aka Komarock. Quote:And their women respect what belongs to their husbands (including their bodies)!
But they already chopped off part of it! you know what am talking about.There's nothing left for the woman or man to enjoy and that is not respectful but torture. Quote: And their women love 'bedminton'
Now how is that possible if the most crucial part is missing.If it takes skill to make a 'complete' woman happy,how much more one that is missing very important bits and pieces? Have you read Model Wari Diries sad story and a lot more others? If they expect to see fireworks they ought to stop it, but I guess they are used to average. Bottom line is,if the resources cannot cater for a major population explosion then pause!esp in foreign land.The eggs won't freeze. They can do that in the west no probs,but here in Africa ,Kenya to be precise we have scarcity and are stretched out. In Eastleigh for instance they have more flats and apartments than sewer lines can handle. Also more job seekers out there so an influx is the last thing we need. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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essyk, kama Koma ni Mogadishu, si basi South C ni Afmadow na Eastleigh Kismayu! Does the Govt. have an immigration policy? Where it includes stuff such as encouraging immigrants to learn the Kiswahili/English, etc GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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famooz wrote:@ essyk, you have made me laugh out loud.Are you discriminated upon in your own country ? chuckle. But i agree,they need to go back and rebuild their country. BUT,these are the same guys who wanted to kill president elect on day two.:( Gunmen have shot dead a member of Somalia's new parliament in an attack in the capital Mogadishu. Mustafa Haji Maalim was gunned down after leaving a mosque in the southern Waberi district following evening prayers, witnesses said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19690209
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/24/2009 Posts: 273
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@alphdoti, Kenya seriously needs a population check. U cannot compare us to the West. Resources are stretched. Majority live below the poverty line.
The reproduction rate of these people is alarming and in a few years, they will be the majority. I don't care if u r Kenyan Somali or Somali Somali, they readily accommodate the illegal immigrants. The men marry at 19/20 yrs. By 30, they have 20kids per 1 man. Islam calls it riziq. They are encouraged to reproduce and fill the already jammed Nairobi. And some of their tabias can be very raw...
And the way the Islam community defends their God, by the sword, leaves you wondering how toothless he is. I am in fear of these doctrines where violence comes so easy in the name of Allah, being inculcated in our society. Ati some random guy does a clip to amuse himself or let's say even to attack Islam and people must die. Eish! @alphdoti, @abdulrahman, can you please explain this one soberly with no emotions. And this is not about extremists or terror groups. This is your regular man who readily turns to violence against innocents, because a man has been killed or a video released that is seen as against the religion. My God is Almighty. He does not need defending. And definitely not in that manner.
Meantime, terror alert in Nairobi. Hawa KDF wamalize the captures warudi. Otherwise Kenya will never know peace.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Yeap. I agree. Watu warudi kwao - KDF should have done this earlier. If there is oil, even better, but let Somalia somalis take that famed business acumen of theirs back to Somalia and build it up. And if you ask me a huge percentage of this acumen constitutes the edge gained by colossal money laundering and tax evasion. Normal kenyan businesses cant compete. People can tolerate fair competition but not people coming, using the hard earned and meagre infrastructure to the point of breaking then in the end gaming the system and effin sh** up by avoiding all taxes and driving house prices to the sky ...Not to mention harbouring terrorists who want to throw grenades all over Nairobi. How ungrateful can you get? Then a border guards unit should be formed, to reside permanently at the border and seal it off to stop the huge influx of small arms. Technically, the foreigners that have domiciled in Eastleigh are illegals, not refugees. Refugees live in camps and there are special dispensations defined by international law and the UN. Illegals contravene these by sneaking out of camps and living without proper documentation. We should start first by remedying that, ensuring there are fewer illegals walking the streets by sending them back to the refugee camps ..then when its stable in Somalia, repatriate them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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What is the need of going to school if a dude can advocate for people to go on a child bearing spree knowing well the consequences?? Oops! It's that school again that alphdoti attended, get a refund brother. It's always wise to display some bits of intelligence from time to time, and avoiding the pedestrian angle of analyzing things. Go KDF go. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:essyk, kama Koma ni Mogadishu, si basi South C ni Afmadow na Eastleigh Kismayu!
Does the Govt. have an immigration policy? Where it includes stuff such as encouraging immigrants to learn the Kiswahili/English, etc
Now that is what makes me sick.Their overwhelming population led to a scramble for property and caused rents to sky rocket.Of course we know the source of their money if anybody cared to keep up with the investigations years back. One of them is what they need to open the door for their relas from camps. Imagine a kenyan refusing to sell his house to his country man because the S. is offering more? And what is worse,they end up converting that ONE house into some mini refugee camp. Crowded in a span of just 2 years. Sewer lines are the same rem. It's no wonder estates have acquired somali names.I went to south C and felt lost! If you think south C is full try Koma where a whole sector is called Mogadishu after many residents kenyans sold their houses to them and went shags. More houses were bought to accomodate madrassa classes plus they have their own education system and way of dressing. Kids start madrassa as soon as they are able to walk and the beatings they receive in these classes are enough to make Jesus weep. It's indoctrination by force wapende wasipende. 2 weeks ago I was told an NWSC guy went to disconnect water in one of ther houses.The Woman, not man drew a knife to stab him. Thank God for the girl that was washing clothes who saved the situation. Seen their kids at play??? It's like they are in war zone.They use crude stuff for play and their games are very rough. Stop one ujionee chamtemakuni esp from their moms. This hostility is what I dislike cz at this rate! Own butcheries Own schools Own malls Own estates. I am just glad I live where order prevails and don't have to worry about incense chocking. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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So. The Somalis go back to Somalia. Oops. Sorry. The Somali Somalis, go back to Somalia. Then what? The Kikuyus go back to Kikuyuland. The Indians go back to India. The Europeans go back to Europe? Damn! I almost forgot. The Chinese building "our" infrastructure for us should go back to China and stop roasting maize on "our" streets. For a forum of highly educated Citizens, I am painfully disappointed with the stereo typing displayed on this thread. Hasn't it occurred to us by now that this madoa madoa phenomenon is what led to the post election clashes in "Kenia"? Please dwell on it before clicking post. Please do.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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I have been made to believe that Turkana land part of Kenia has oil. This I guess, means that the people inhabiting this area will get a lot of money which means they will come and settle in Nairobi. Will we have a thread hear decrying them using their money to overpopulate the section of "Nairobi" they will choose to live in?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/9/2011 Posts: 178 Location: Nairobi
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essyk wrote:youcan'tstopusnow wrote:essyk, kama Koma ni Mogadishu, si basi South C ni Afmadow na Eastleigh Kismayu!
Does the Govt. have an immigration policy? Where it includes stuff such as encouraging immigrants to learn the Kiswahili/English, etc
Now that is what makes me sick.Their overwhelming population led to a scramble for property and caused rents to sky rocket.Of course we know the source of their money if anybody cared to keep up with the investigations years back. One of them is what they need to open the door for their relas from camps. Imagine a kenyan refusing to sell his house to his country man because the S. is offering more? And what is worse,they end up converting that ONE house into some mini refugee camp. Crowded in a span of just 2 years. Sewer lines are the same rem. It's no wonder estates have acquired somali names.I went to south C and felt lost! If you think south C is full try Koma where a whole sector is called Mogadishu after many residents kenyans sold their houses to them and went shags. More houses were bought to accomodate madrassa classes plus they have their own education system and way of dressing. Kids start madrassa as soon as they are able to walk and the beatings they receive in these classes are enough to make Jesus weep. It's indoctrination by force wapende wasipende. 2 weeks ago I was told an NWSC guy went to disconnect water in one of ther houses.The Woman, not man drew a knife to stab him. Thank God for the girl that was washing clothes who saved the situation. Seen their kids at play??? It's like they are in war zone.They use crude stuff for play and their games are very rough. Stop one ujionee chamtemakuni esp from their moms. This hostility is what I dislike cz at this rate! Own butcheries Own schools Own malls Own estates. I am just glad I live where order prevails and don't have to worry about incense chocking. what happened..i thought things were going well and you had embraced their culture.. Posted: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:43:50 PM Wacha madha.I am dating one. Infact we are taking it to another level. Apart from the constant spits? everything else na fine. Those who follow the crowd usually get lost in it
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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aemathenge wrote:I have been made to believe that Turkana land part of Kenia has oil.
This I guess, means that the people inhabiting this area will get a lot of money which means they will come and settle in Nairobi.
So what are you saying Mahe? That the moment people become rich they must move to the city? Invest they may, but that doesn't mean settle,live and populate.And by doing that,they open up businesses opportunities for the urban unemployed lot. Do not forget that people like Turkana and Masai hold land/cows dear.Now way are they going to forsake all that and move to Runda. If anything the best they will do is build their own Turnda in Turkana.
The difference is in what one does with the money.Either marry more wives and have as many kids without caring about resources or invest in property and have kids that you can manage.
Will we have a thread hear decrying them using their money to overpopulate the section of "Nairobi" they will choose to live in? No Mr.That would be silly because they are Kenyans. You do not accuse fellow country mates of settling anywhere and using their country's resources since they are taxed like the rest. What is needed is balance.As they move wherever the goverment must also move by upgrading what is there to accomodate them. But when foreigners invade and take over? it's cause to worry.Ask the Israel government decrying the same and sending our own back to Africa. They realised after it was a bit too late. . "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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