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abdulrahman
#31 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 9:22:49 AM
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@maichblack,

Thanks for the informative piece. What of ;

Prof Kiama Wangai . He has a LLM,LLB and MBCHB, MMED (Path)

I see the guy is already a Prof.
YesuWangu
#32 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 9:26:33 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Nonetheless; I am very concerned about our preoccupation with how much various professionals earn.

Is a salary all that one has to show for being in a certain profession? Is money the only output?

If yes; then "meaningless, meaningless... everything is meaningless. What do people gain from all their labuors at which they toil under the sun?" {Ecclesiastes, CAP 1, Ver 2 - 3}


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

Very true.
keraka
#33 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 9:37:54 AM
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mukiha wrote:
keraka wrote:

Yes you can do a PHD in less than two years moreso in some foreighn Universities.Most PHD coursework takes between 1 and 1.5 years the rest of the time will be wasted in thesis writting.It might take you 1 year to conceive a research topic and another year for it to be accepted,dont forget youll be travelling allover kenya looking for your prof. to do a grammatical correction for your research topic.My spouse was so psyched to achieve the highest in academia,only to be frustrated in writing her masters research work for four Years(In fact her supervisor died along the way) since then hataki "ujinga" ya academia.

I know most of us here have the masters paper lakini project tunajua tuu abstract coz it was written by some freelancers.Iko chida hapo but its good to try.

In India you do your PHD in two years flat na pia unapatiwa ka bachelor/Diploma certificate upelekee mama incase she dint have any.I think its the best.



What do you mean PhD Coursework? There is no such thing!

What do you mean "time wasted"? Or did you intend to say "spent"? One cannot be "wasting time" while doing what one signed up for. That would be a contradiction in terms - and practical impossibility!


Pray Pray Pray There is no PHD course work??? Thats a new one to me.

Yes i meant time wasted and not constructively spent,as in time spent running around looking for your Supervisors in Bars and Hotels or even their upcountry homes for non existent corrections and changing structures of statements.

Re read Maichback's statement on how it is difficult to be awarded a PHD from a Kenyan public University.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
mukiha
#34 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 9:47:04 AM
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@keraka: you initial post did not talk about "running around looking for your Supervisors in Bars and Hotels or even their upcountry homes..." You had simply said "the rest of the time will be wasted in thesis writing"

And yes, there is no coursework in a PhD program. The reason is that a PhD is not "taught"; it is "learned". You are not taught, you develop new knowledge.

You identify a gap in the body of knowledge and then attempt to fill it up through research. You are then assessed not so much on the value/volume of new knowledge that you discovered, but more on you approach and methods in the search for that knowledge.
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
mukiha
#35 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 9:53:28 AM
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But still; I do agree with @MaichBlack; it takes too long to get a PhD in Kenya. The culprit, in my view is LAZINESS!

The students are lazy, but the supervisors are even lazier!

I know several Kenyan guys who went to UK universities for PhDs and spent over 6 years there doing little more than downing pints at the pubs. Eventually their scholarships were withdrawn and they returned to Kenya empty handed....

I also know several Kenyan supervisors who spend three months reading a 10-page chapter... claiming they are very busy with other research... for which they have no results to show!

Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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