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"I Will Not Apologize" -- Caroline Mutoko Responds to Plagiarism Claims
olivertwist
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:18:44 PM
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This woman Caroline Mutoko is something else.

Was left shaking my head when I read this > http://www.ghafla.co.ke/...nds-to-plagiarism-claims
essyk
#2 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:22:20 PM
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And how does this affect the price of sukuma wiki?

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
famooz
#3 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:36:56 PM
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essyk wrote:
And how does this affect the price of sukuma wiki?



It doesn't,but we all know that it is an offense. As someone who tries to write,i can tell you that it can be hard to churn out an article,but to copy paste the work of someone and not give credits is plain wrong....she makes 'average' look fine :)
Tebes
#4 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:47:05 PM
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[quote=olivertwist]This woman Caroline Mutoko is something else.

Was left shaking my head when I read this > http://www.ghafla.co.ke/...ds-to-plagiarism-claims[/quote]


Second post; both diverting traffic to Ghafla.co.ke. KenyaLyrics style.Liar Liar Liar
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McReggae
#5 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:47:06 PM
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famooz wrote:
essyk wrote:
And how does this affect the price of sukuma wiki?



It doesn't,but we all know that it is an offense. As someone who tries to write,i can tell you that it can be hard to churn out an article,but to copy paste the work of someone and not give credits is plain wrong....she makes 'average' look fine :)


@famooz, hujawahijua, Mutoko is essyk's role model and very dear to her!!!

....this reponse from her (CM) is simply schupid!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
MKWASI
#6 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:55:34 PM
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essyk wrote:
And how does this affect the price of sukuma wiki?



Might affect the price of CM's sukumawiki.Even me I had some ambitions, a coconut head though, is a run run..I better get one from the village!!
essyk
#7 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:04:12 PM
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MKWASI wrote:
essyk wrote:
And how does this affect the price of sukuma wiki?



Might affect the price of CM's sukumawiki.Even me I had some ambitions, a coconut head though, is a run run..I better get one from the village!!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I do not read the star,I do not listen to Kiss neither do I read her blogs.
And NO,she's not my 'ideal' role model but a media personality goofing just like the rest.
Where is the original author to file a suit?
Who is making noise here? Kenyans.Then what? back to routine.
You eat ur sukuma while she eats her pie.
temporary noise.
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banyamulenge
#8 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:12:16 PM
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“I will not apologize or respond to nonsense that tries to imply I may have borrowed something from the internet. I borrow from everything around me--cocktail parties I go to, baby showers, I borrow from drunkards, thieves, cab drivers and my housekeeper--I borrow from the lines of songs I listen to and tweets I read and even posts on Nicki Minaj’s FB wall...I am no copy cat--I am the original and I’m different and that’s tough for some people to take.”


"The longer the fuse the mightier the blast!"
masukuma
#9 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:27:53 PM
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its a cultural thing....Plagiarism is not that big a deal in kenya... we do it all the time. Our teachers encourage it (you get better marks if you copy-paste work as long as you don't copy paste it from a book in the exam room). so its not a big deal - tunajiwekelea vitu juu. We should only embrace something that benefits us - embracing the current intellectual property regime does not! China does not! While in the west Intellectual property is a big deal - i don't see why we should limit ourselves on it.
lets borrow lessons from fashion
http://blog.ted.com/2010/05/25/lessons_from_fa/
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rock
#10 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:34:16 PM
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Mountain out of a molehill.
jamplu
#11 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:34:54 PM
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who cares whether she apologizes or not...she can't write period. If anyone around here is her friend pls tell her she has to stop belittling people calling them "small minded"
essyk
#12 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:35:18 PM
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banyamulenge wrote:
I borrow from everything around me
I am no copy cat--I am the original and I’m different and that’s tough for some people to take.”


4 words in that one paragraph make a deadly combination.

1.Borrow
2.Copy cat
3.Original
4.Different.

At such times silence is a good weapon.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
alma
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:46:19 PM
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Ghafla should be the last to talk about plagarism.

Etiquette online demands that if you "borrow", you don't just copy and past, you MUST leave a RINK.

They too are as bad as Mutoko. And she's bad.
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masukuma
#14 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:48:42 PM
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can anyone google "Don’t settle. Life is full of choices, don’t ever let anyone talk you out of having standards. You are not picky, or greedy, or unrealistic. You are worth it!"
its all over the place and people are not "quoting the source", others are telling their 18 year old self, some are telling their 20 year old selves... people have used it on facebook, google plus e.t.c.
Tunajifanya sana!
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rock
#15 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:54:30 PM
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This issue has been blown totally out of proportion.Kweli there are haters out there.Eish!!
hoodrat
#16 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:01:03 PM
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Simple,if you are caught stealing,apologise and maybe you will be forgiven.Her arroggance isn't helping her out in any way!
Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today!
McReggae
#17 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:42:09 PM
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rock wrote:
This issue has been blown totally out of proportion.Kweli there are haters out there.Eish!!


The same Mutoko is the 'king' of blowing issues out of proportion man!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Benzino
#18 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:17:54 PM
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Typical Kenyan reaction.... "OOO! I will not resign" , "OOO! tunamalizwa" , "OOO! Money has been poured". Sometimes, its good to humble ourselves and learn from our mistakes.
masukuma
#19 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:35:36 PM
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hoodrat wrote:
Simple,if you are caught stealing,apologise and maybe you will be forgiven.Her arroggance isn't helping her out in any way!

in my opinion it should not even be considered theft! next time you will be required to quote your source when you crack a joke <-- this is all mine!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
rock
#20 Posted : Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:17:52 PM
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McReggae wrote:
rock wrote:
This issue has been blown totally out of proportion.Kweli there are haters out there.Eish!!


The same Mutoko is the 'king' of blowing issues out of proportion man!!!!

That may very well be so but the backlash is borderline hateful and full of bile.I am behind her 100 percent on this one!!!
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