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Personal Pension Plan
Litro
#21 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:41:00 PM
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Thanks good people for this healthy discussion. Let me put my 2 cents in it.

Roughly two months ago,i requested for a quotation from UAP Insurance for a personal pension plan.

1. Their minimum contribution is Kshs 3,500/= per month.

2. One realises the benefits upon retirement i.e at 55 years.

3. The contribution has a 5% premium increase clause on an annual basis.

4. The maturity value is compunded at 12%

5. It has an accidental death cover.

6. Lets for instance say,you that your age will be 25 years next birthday and you contribute Kshs 3,500/= per month,then after 30 years you will be eligible to get Kshs 8,555,971/=

This may look enticing (relative) but the catch is here.

If you FAIL to contribute for even one month,you lose out all your CONTRIBUTIONS.

That is the information that was ceded to me upon extensive nagging.

Your take on this will aslo be highly regarded.


Opportunity favours the prepared mind...........
gogeta
#22 Posted : Friday, September 18, 2009 11:35:00 AM
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@mukiha...does it mean what they call investment scheme- which combines Investment plan and Pension plan is also not good.

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oteve
#23 Posted : Friday, September 18, 2009 1:30:00 PM
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I will advice you to take the britak ppp coz minimum cont is 2k and the guaranteed returns with minimum of 5% also can withdraw anytime u wish only that if its b4 age 50 you will not get the tax benefits on withdrawal which is a kra issue

Dignityis everything keep it intact
Mwekahazina
#24 Posted : Friday, September 18, 2009 3:54:00 PM
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This is the point at which Independent Financial Advisors serve the custoner best.

In general,Jubilee and Britak are the best performers. Jubilee comes top because of consistency in the portfolio and resilience to down-side risk. Britak is second,even though their portfolio at times out-performs Jubilee,BUT is very sensitive to down-side risk. I'm happy they've been addressing this issue.

So I place my clients,particularly highly-mobile professionals,with either Jubilee or Britak,depending on their PREFERENCEs.


Mwekahazina
#25 Posted : Friday, September 18, 2009 4:00:00 PM
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Any queries,may be answered through firstliberty.kenya@gmail.com with whom I handle insurance business.
newfarer
#26 Posted : Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:25:47 PM
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Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
i'm thinking of starting contributing to britam individual pension scheme since my employer doesn't have one. just minimal amount for just in case.
any wazuan experience with them?
looking at 30% tax relief is juicy.so if I sign for 3k I effectively pay 2100/- quite a good return. sio?
punda amecheka
Siringi
#27 Posted : Friday, September 06, 2013 5:23:56 AM
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1. Free advice I dont mix serious business with gmail addressesShame on you Shame on you Shame on you
get a corporate address with the gmail on as back up.

2. Kwani there are no other insurance persons in wazua? Apart from personal pension plans, there are several other insurance matters we would like to discuss e.g

a. Who offers the best motor vehicle insurance? I need to save mony on my current premiums?

b. What about education policies are they worthy it ? What has been wazuans expeience on this?

C. Why are kenyans generally averse to insurance? My colleagues see agents come round they get busy or beat cornerSad

d. Took my tax exemptions certs from Britak and Jubilee to the accounts guys to effect PAYE exemptions and the guys were like what please give us your contacts with your insurers

e. Wapi old mutual na CFC . Pan africa etc na wengine wajitete? Admin send them an e-mail wajitetee especially on the business of unit trusts and personal life

lets share and wazua

Mwekahazina wrote:
Any queries,may be answered through firstliberty.kenya@gmail.com with whom I handle insurance business.

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#28 Posted : Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:33:37 PM
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interesting old topic. What that britam lady was selling is an endowment insurance policy not a pension. Insurance policies enable you to get 15pc of the premium as insurance relief while pensions enable you to get 20k max as defined contribution deductible for tax purposes
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omhangla
#29 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 10:52:00 AM
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Joined: 7/8/2013
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Siringi wrote:
1. Free advice I dont mix serious business with gmail addressesShame on you Shame on you Shame on you
get a corporate address with the gmail on as back up.

2. Kwani there are no other insurance persons in wazua? Apart from personal pension plans, there are several other insurance matters we would like to discuss e.g

a. Who offers the best motor vehicle insurance? I need to save mony on my current premiums?

b. What about education policies are they worthy it ? What has been wazuans expeience on this?

C. Why are kenyans generally averse to insurance? My colleagues see agents come round they get busy or beat cornerSad

d. Took my tax exemptions certs from Britak and Jubilee to the accounts guys to effect PAYE exemptions and the guys were like what please give us your contacts with your insurers

e. Wapi old mutual na CFC . Pan africa etc na wengine wajitete? Admin send them an e-mail wajitetee especially on the business of unit trusts and personal life

lets share and wazua

Mwekahazina wrote:
Any queries,may be answered through firstliberty.kenya@gmail.com with whom I handle insurance business.



how about old mutual and their Max investment plans. how good is it.
Layman
#30 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:43:27 AM
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Posts: 422
Location: Nairobi
Litro wrote:
Thanks good people for this healthy discussion. Let me put my 2 cents in it.

Roughly two months ago,i requested for a quotation from UAP Insurance for a personal pension plan.

1. Their minimum contribution is Kshs 3,500/= per month.

2. One realises the benefits upon retirement i.e at 55 years.

3. The contribution has a 5% premium increase clause on an annual basis.

4. The maturity value is compunded at 12%

5. It has an accidental death cover.

6. Lets for instance say,you that your age will be 25 years next birthday and you contribute Kshs 3,500/= per month,then after 30 years you will be eligible to get Kshs 8,555,971/=

This may look enticing (relative) but the catch is here.

If you FAIL to contribute for even one month,you lose out all your CONTRIBUTIONS.

That is the information that was ceded to me upon extensive nagging.

Your take on this will aslo be highly regarded.


Opportunity favours the prepared mind...........


This was not a quote for PPP. It must have been for some life cover. PPPs are governed by RBA and you cannot lose all your contributions, even if only for two months. However, you may lose a little of it in short run to take care of admnin expenses. Please Google Retirement Benefits Authority (RBA) and have a talk with them. They will give you very give and correct info regarding PPPs.
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