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Muslim Cleric shot dead!!!
FundamentAli
#81 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:11:46 AM
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Meanwhile, Keraiko Tobiko has ordered a probe and named a team to investigate without involvement of police. Found it interesting
Kaigangio
#82 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:19:42 AM
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FundamentAli wrote:
Meanwhile, Keraiko Tobiko has ordered a probe and named a team to investigate without involvement of police. Found it interesting


are we back to the old good days...when an egg fell down and broke a committee was immediately constituted to investigate the cause???

now, kiraiku tobacco is playing politics with issues of national security....
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Elder
#83 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:20:28 PM
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This:
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Aboud Rogo then established contacts with groups in Somalia and used his madrassa, Sirajul Munir in Mtwapa, to recruit Kenyan youths to Somalia. Last year the Council of Imams and Preachers identified his mosque, Masjid Musa in Majengo, as among three recruiting youth to join the Al Shabaab.

The recruits were lured with religious promises and around Sh80,000 each. The youth were also offered military training that would be useful in liberating the coastal land from foreigners. This promise proved very appealing among Digo youth and the Revolutionary Republican Council (the precursor of the Mombasa Revolutionary Council) leadership in south coast.

In 2007, Rogo, disheartened by the defeat of Islamic Union Courts in Somalia by the Ethiopian forces intensified his indoctrination of Muslim youths with a weekly lecture at his Masjid Musa in Mombasa. The lectures portrayed the Somalia war as the ultimate jihad where anyone who died will be a martyr.

Among the fatwas he issued was that it was haram (forbidden by Islamic law) to work for the government of Kenya. He also produced CDs and other materials praising the al Qaeda leadership. Rogo visited Somalia in 2009 where he reportedly received military training from foreign jihadists in Somalia. Prior to his death, there was speculation that Rogo was working with foreign secret services despite preaching radicalism.


And This.

His murder was a despicable crime and whoever did it ought to be found and face the law but I can't bring myself to mourn his death.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
Magigi
#84 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:33:44 PM
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Elder wrote:
His murder was a despicable crime and whoever did it ought to be found and face the law but I can't bring myself to mourn his death.
[/quote]And This.
...Mbona bedisheet yake haikuzuia rasasi ya AK47?
Elder
#85 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:38:21 PM
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Magigi wrote:
Elder wrote:
His murder was a despicable crime and whoever did it ought to be found and face the law but I can't bring myself to mourn his death.
And This.
...Mbona bedisheet yake haikuzuia rasasi ya AK47?

The bullet probably forgot it was jihad.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
essyk
#86 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:48:43 PM
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Maybe am psycho but I can't stop listening to the part where he says'

'Rasasi ya AK,si rasasi ya vitabachani,'

He has a devilish laughter.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Rahatupu
#87 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:51:52 PM
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Elder wrote:
Magigi wrote:
Elder wrote:
His murder was a despicable crime and whoever did it ought to be found and face the law but I can't bring myself to mourn his death.
And This.
...Mbona bedisheet yake haikuzuia rasasi ya AK47?

The bullet probably forgot it was jihad.


Quoted:
PREACHING LIES TO OUR YOUTHS!!!!!....MBONA YEYE HAKUZIA HIZO RISASI???????
kakanyali 1 hour ago.

Laxity in our legal/security system:
When this Kenyan man openly supports (moral) teh enemy of the state (Al Shaabab) given that KDF is at war with Somalia Keraiko Tumbacko should have ordered him to be prosecuted for treason. He never took over the case against him in court so as to offer better prosecutorial service. Now he institutes a committee to investigate. What a farce.
Elder
#88 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:11:09 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
Elder wrote:
Magigi wrote:
Elder wrote:
His murder was a despicable crime and whoever did it ought to be found and face the law but I can't bring myself to mourn his death.
And This.
...Mbona bedisheet yake haikuzuia rasasi ya AK47?

The bullet probably forgot it was jihad.


Quoted:
PREACHING LIES TO OUR YOUTHS!!!!!....MBONA YEYE HAKUZIA HIZO RISASI???????
kakanyali 1 hour ago.

Laxity in our legal/security system:
When this Kenyan man openly supports (moral) teh enemy of the state (Al Shaabab) given that KDF is at war with Somalia Keraiko Tumbacko should have ordered him to be prosecuted for treason. He never took over the case against him in court so as to offer better prosecutorial service. Now he institutes a committee to investigate. What a farce.

I wondered about that too. This guy was openly supporting Al Shaabab, a group that has killed and is killing Kenyans, and encouraging the youth to join them and yet no charges we know of were brought against him on those.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
Coolio
#89 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:44:32 PM
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Application of double standards by K. Tumbako
Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
mkeiyd
#90 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:13:59 PM
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abdulrahman wrote:
we were warned against this constitution. I heeded and voted NO.

It was made by activists for activists.

Now Kenya will live with this fact.The CJ is a former activists, the judges are slowly turning into activists in order not to be labelled pro state and anti reformer.

MRC court case was a clear demonstration that the judiciary does not mean well for this country. Either the judges are acting in fear to protect their jobs or the law is not very clear to them.

Whilst am not insinuating anything (though the daily nation alleges that Rogo was planning to bomb Nyali bridge, Catholic church and Likoni ferry and he was involved in Paradise bombing), Kenyans must ask where on earth is an alleged terrorist released on bail, not once,twice but on several occasions. If it was in US, all those people could be cooling their heels in Guatanamo bay prison, Uganda could have seen them in Luzira prison, Ethiopia could have incarcerated them in central prison but in Kenya, the courts gives you freedom with a meager bail of ksh 100,000 or so.

We must preach peace not by words but by deeds. We must report all those suspicious characters living amongst us.We must shame the judiciary in areas where they are failing, the same way we shame the legislature and Executive when they go overboard.



@abdulrahman, Let me start by asking whether your other name is wandati.
Away from that,the judiciary follows the laid law,not emotions. The penal code as it is, can't fight terrorism,that's why the terrorism bill has been drafted in order for the judiciary to do exactly as you've said in your post. PUT BEHIND BARS ALL SUSPECTED TERRORISTS.

But i ask, who is vehemently opposing the bill? Why are they opposing it? If you have nothing wrong to hide,why fear a law meant for law and order?
Abdulrahman,why are moslem leaders opposed to the bill? It's targeting terrorists,what business do moslems have opposing a bill meant for terrorists?
I saw one wandati incite moslems by saying the gov't should have taken up the responsibility of taking care of the slain cleric's family,saying,the gov't usually takes up that responsibility,for others, but never for a moslem.
Really, how many of the mungikis' families did the gov't take up? Probably wacucu? Wanugu?
A criminal is a criminal. No gov't takes up families of criminals.

Back to the issue, if you voted NO, it was your right to do so. But if you got axes to grind with the judiciary, you are wrong on this one. Judiciary is the only arm of gov't serious about the constitution.
The youths causing mayhem are a product of radicalization and bigotry preached to them by their leaders.
Don't blame the judiciary for that, blame the very people preaching and opposing the terrorism bill.
For with that bill enacted,many of the yapping clerics sympathizing with terrorists would be scratching their beards behind bars.
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