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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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tycho wrote:This territorial ideas are so out of time!
But I'd forgive the southern Sudan for having such ideas, but as for a Kenyan of wazua caliber to crave for a messiah, or even to cling to the triangle is shocking. A word that is often bandied about due consideration to its meaning is 'globalization'. There are many examples where territorial boundaries have just been mere lines on paper. I do not agree with the principle behind it but i see it happening. As for the quality of members, most are good in chit chat only.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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YesuWangu wrote:tycho wrote:This territorial ideas are so out of time!
But I'd forgive the southern Sudan for having such ideas, but as for a Kenyan of wazua caliber to crave for a messiah, or even to cling to the triangle is shocking. A word that is often bandied about due consideration to its meaning is 'globalization'. There are many examples where territorial boundaries have just been mere lines on paper. I do not agree with the principle behind it but i see it happening. As for the quality of members, most are good in chit chat only. This 'globalization' has its principles in the human spirit that seeks to 'permeate' everything. Everyday we are getting closer and closer to each other, we are growing more and more dependent on each other. Surely, some of the most pressing problems like global warming, endemic poverty and even terrorism cannot be resolved within the nation state. These barriers should be broken.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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It is funny how countries fight over bounderies. Austronouts who have been to space say mother earth appears like a small dot...and we are all in there. Let's learn to coexist
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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The average person cares little for things beyond his immediate vicinity and personal interest. they delegate this responsibility of 'taking care' of far flung areas to 'regional authorities'. On a global scale, if the regional boundaries are broken down, who is this authority? That is a case for retaining the regional boundaries but am not holding my breath for its success.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/31/2008 Posts: 163 Location: Nirvana
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tycho wrote:Sarrouniya wrote:tycho wrote:This territorial ideas are so out of time!
But I'd forgive the southern Sudan for having such ideas, but as for a Kenyan of wazua caliber to crave for a messiah, or even to cling to the triangle is shocking. Don't be that simplistic. For a wazuan to 'cling' to this thing does not directly translate to any gain to you or me. But we have Kenyans living in these areas that will be affected by that action. More importantly, it is the action of our forefathers that have determined our collective heritage and boundaries and if we were to reason like that,or the maumau were lazy and did not sacrifice their lives, then we would still be under colonial rule. We owe it to posterity. Next M7 will come calling, then Somalia. Alafu? Ata hivo that katriangle from my map is secured with dotted lines meaning what? The oil discovery-blessing or curse? God intervene! Its too early. Even if S. Sudan's wish was granted, it wouldn't solve even a quarter of her problems. Kenya is still incapable of solving her problems even with the triangle. M7 will not do anything significant with the lands he may be yearning for. Which posterity are you talking about? Kenyans? Humans in general? If you are talking about the latter, then you must break all these boundaries. I now see your point, globalisation, which I had missed. Quite a noble idea. In an ideal world. We are far from ideal so we must act in line with our circumstances. Like the ching chong roasting maize...lakini Kenyans doing side biasharas in China mchunge, u could be thrown out as well. :) |The Universe will correspond to the nature of your song ...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,225 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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The scramble for Africa has never ended. It has mutated into an economic war. We are like pawns in a game of chess. Though the physical war is still there,the winners aren't the ones who took part in the war! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,225 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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Nabwire wrote:essyk wrote:bye nabwire bye.
 Essyk you have jokes, you know you will miss us. Now how will you guys survive without us and the $2 jokes that entertain you, hebu anza kusign hizo petition. Tumesema no!!! Hapo @Nabwire umenena. Cant imagine the resultant "brain drain"  . It's for this reason that i shout....stay Nabwire stay! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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let everybody take their land back. We are wasting too much land for nothing! Take baby take! We can even donate some kenyans like nabwire to help them develop. Now this I don't get If they take your land and ur ancestors were buried in it,knowing how some people are attached to graves etc,will u be saying that ur grandparents are buried in Uganda or Sudan? *Just thinking aloud* "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/28/2008 Posts: 2,276 Location: Kibish
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kiash wrote:Si wachukue wakitaka hoping there is no one who lives up there, after all we saw journalists driving for hours before getting any human contact. How long is the triangle? May be there is no one who lives there its just coz they heard ati kuna mafuta. Thought I saw footages on CNN once again about humanitarian crisis in southern Sudan. I think they should deal with that first .Kenyans are usually taken for a ride by these guys. They were housed in Kenya for years; we assisted them to negotiate for peace, independence ma vifaru thru our country and then this. It’s also common to hear a Kenyan has been killed up there. I think they should not forget all this even though it’s their right to claim what’s theirs. There are people who live in those areas, i was there in 2010. Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/28/2008 Posts: 2,276 Location: Kibish
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kiash wrote:Si wachukue wakitaka hoping there is no one who lives up there, after all we saw journalists driving for hours before getting any human contact. How long is the triangle? May be there is no one who lives there its just coz they heard ati kuna mafuta. Thought I saw footages on CNN once again about humanitarian crisis in southern Sudan. I think they should deal with that first .Kenyans are usually taken for a ride by these guys. They were housed in Kenya for years; we assisted them to negotiate for peace, independence ma vifaru thru our country and then this. It’s also common to hear a Kenyan has been killed up there. I think they should not forget all this even though it’s their right to claim what’s theirs. There are people who live in those areas, i was there in 2010. Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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