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The Importance of Environment
Obi 1 Kanobi
#1 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2009 1:16:00 PM
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I have been probably the loudest advocate of the 'Kenya is not a failed state' shouting contest,but the more I read about our enviromental challanges,the more I worry that we may be on the way there and ultimately,its our continous degradation of the enviroment that will lead to our doom.

Guy's this is very serious;

Dead lakes;

a) Apparently several in Baringo district including Lake Baringo itself,Lake Bogoria and others whose names I don't know,after uncontrolled charcoal burning,the result is now pastoral communities are fighting for the little available water.

b) Lake Nakuru firstly was dead and threatened the existence of Tourism revenue as the milions of flamingos would have permanently decamped to Lake Natron in Tanzania,

c) solution was the KWS decided to pump water from Lake Naivasha,and now sadly Lake Naivasha is on its back and with it our horticulture will be gone.

d) Lake Turkana has seen its water level recede over the last couple of years

e) Lake Victoria has equally seen its waters recede plus the nile treaty effectively denies us cate' blanche access to resources in our territories.

Economic impact;

We are currently all aware of the economic impact that is a direct result of enviromental degradation in our country.

The old one used to be pastoralists losing their animals and kenyans mostly did not care since the impact was limited to their vast but sparsely populated areas.

Now the impact seems to be on every kenyans doorstep.

a) Rising energy bills

b) Widespread crop failure and resultant food insecurity

c) Water shortage in our major city Nairobi. Apparently a 20 litre mtungi is going for Sh.100 if you can even find it.

d) Potential threat of the Mau to Maasai Mara,our biggest tourism attraction. And Lake Nakuru

e) Significant reduction in fish landings along Lake Victoria

f) Lake Naivasha directly threatens Horticulture

The domino effect will likely effect every Kenyan.

The question is what are we to do as a nation. I don't want to go back to the question of what the gava is doing coz the answer is easy,NOTHING. Surprisingly the minister incharge is John Michuki,who is widely regarded in this forum as the most effective. Kenya has also produced probably the most emminent environmentalist in the world in the Name of Wangari Maathai.

Guyz,this is the biggest threat to our country,forget politics. It cannot be overemphasised. What should we do,at the national level,individuals planting trees is sweet,but not enough.

Lets please brainstorm,I am sure someone reading is in a position to initiate action.



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FundamentAli
#2 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2009 1:30:00 PM
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The Ministry of Environment is fast asleep. Do not be hoodwinked with the cleaning of the Nairobi river. The funds for the cleaning exercise were provided by the UN and the program started a while back.

Environmental issues are not limited to the Great Rift. Mt. Kenya has also had its share of problem. The Tana Delta is another area. There has been no effort to restore the forest. The forest guards are also part of our problem. Either they do not do their work,or they have been compromised.

We need a Marshall Plan for the environment in our country.


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Njunge
#3 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2009 2:07:00 PM
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Obi,
You are spot on.......In the last few weeks i have been to a couple of districts which i would consider to be the food baskets of this country.I can assure you what we have at hand is crop failure unheard of in Kenya.Of cause,this 'NOTHING' government won't stock until people start dying.It is very grave....!!.I sincerely doubt there is anything a couple of ordinary Kenyans can do to reverse the environmental damage this far.The buck stops with the goverment.........One of the most annoying equipment i would ban without thinking twice is the 'powersaw'........There is nothing that is eating our forests than this otherwise humble equipment.............Maybe we can start by petitioning Kimendero to ban this thing.

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Obi 1 Kanobi
#4 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2009 2:34:00 PM
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@Njung'e and Fundamentally

I agree with you that its really difficult to come up with a solution as individuals. The root cause is a cocktail of so many problems from corruption to population explosion to poor agricultural practices.

By now I would expect logging to have been fully banned,charcoal burning should also be limited.

Incidentally how much coal do we have in Ukambani,it could replace charcoal. I have done barbeques over here where we used coal to grill burgers,chicken legs and pork ribs and they were good. If we have any commercial quantities,they should be used to replace charcoal in homes.

Reviving irrigation schemes to improve our food security will also ease encroachment to forest lands,is Fred Gumo still breathing.


I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Njunge
#5 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2009 3:03:00 PM
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The last i heard about coal in Mui basin was that samples had been sent to SA and our 'coal' was found to be superior in terms of ash content........Nothing after that..........You see Obi,in this country,time is not of essence.Pray that you will have teeth left the next time you hear about it.

Give Kenyans water........sufficient water and they will never beg again.We have the resources but again.......How about zero rating paraffin and cooking gas to make it more affordable than charcoal?......How about encouraging households to embrace bio-gas from animal slurry?......

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kyt
#6 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2009 3:17:00 PM
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water kenya needs most importantly is a water harvesting strategy with the el nino coming i thinkkenya can harvest water sufficient for use in the next 5 years evn if it never rains again

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Mainat
#7 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2009 10:47:00 PM
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Obi,the issue is not what some messianic leader is going to do,but what you and I will do. I suspect that if we don't get short rains in Aug,tukikiona in October. We already water/power rationing; cattle and people rustling on massive scale in NE; looming and on-going famine.

Starting tree planting projects is one of the best things that you can do as it guarantees that our sons and daughters don't grow up in Kenya desert. If each Kenyan planted and was asked to take care of 10 trees,that would be probably enough to start with. Its not a lot 10 trees...

Encouraging water harvesting is another medium term thing. But that depends on good rains.

Solar energy-kweli common sense is not common. We have 12hrs of guaranted sunshine everyday and only Kaigangio has thought of installing his own power supply?

Kimeendero and Wangari Maathai can also do their part by encouraging and pushing for complete ban on charcoal burning and logging. Get rid of NEMA which is apparently planning an office in Karura.

Recycling of waste. Human waste can easily be processed into manure. And this would be a solution for all those who don't ahve toilets or proper sewage systems.



Obi-only fools don't change their minds. Good to see you are not one...


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Obi 1 Kanobi
#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:20:00 AM
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@Mainat,

Individuals planting trees is good but I think we have to be more radical than that. We are slightly passed that point,what we need now is a crusade to save ourselves.

How practical is this,I read somewhere that the japanese recycle sewage water back to their taps,I am not saying we have come to this,but is it practical to recycle Nairobi Sewage back to say Athi river to boost downstream flow for irrigation.

And yes,I always change my mind,its healthy to review once stance and change short term views but the long term goal should only be slightly adjusted.


I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
niando
#9 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:51:00 AM
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what happened to the Moi's presidential decree of the 1980s where one was suppossed to get a chief's permit to cut a tree? and you were required to plant 2 trees for every 1 cut?

The government should urgently have a policy of all land owners planting trees onl atlest 10% of their land and strictly enforce it.
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Djinn
#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:34:00 AM
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I think other culprits abound in the corporate world and should be compelled to do something (over and above their existing CSR initiatives which are really below the line advertising - let them so something altruistic). Here is an example:

A story in today's (July 21st 2009) Business Daily indicates that an NGO involved in recycling,collects 4.5 tonnes of (rinsed off) beer labels from East African Breweries...EVERYDAY! 4.5 tonnes! Lets look at the numbers,off the back of a cigarette pack...assume only 30-35% of the population is of drinking age,and that one half of that population does consume alcohol...further that,of that portion,only one half consume beer either daily or occassionally (with the rest doing hock,spirits,wines,traditional brews,etc). Still....4.5 tonnes of labels per day?

Lets move to mobile companies and prepaid cards. Prepaid cards possibly weigh more than beer labels (owing to thickness/lamination,etc) and there are definitely more mobile subscribers than there are drinkers. Kenya has abt 18 million mobile subscribers,of which at least 90% are prepaid - assume only half of the prepaid users purchase a low denomination scratch card (that weight more than or the same as a beer label) every other day....how much more paper is littering the streets and can it not also be recycled?

EABL,Safaricom,Zain - how much demand to they put on forests for paper and can they not advocate a greener approach? Can't Tusker and other brands,not have a smaller label and no label on the rear side? Can airtime sellers not revert to the virtual cards (and devices)?


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MADE
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:49:00 AM
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@Sk,pls stick it....conservation of the environment is a millenium goal as set by UN.
During my junior school days,the Gava had a deliberate policy/directive to have a National tree planting day. Now the trees we planted hav been felled by greedy school Heads and chiefs no longer mobilise pple in conserving the environment....we've indeed failed

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:03:00 AM
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I visited a friend who recently sunk a borehole at a cost of Ksh 5.6 M and the yield per day is only 100litres !

He is considered lucky ! Other boreholes have been sunk at similar costs and yield air.

The Govt. is sinking boreholes all over the city,but what is even more alarming is that the ground water levels are sinking to lower levels.

Our only hope as we are told is that the rains in Oct will reverse the situation. If at all the long rains failed,what gurantee do we have for the short rains ?

Its sickening that we are still debating with people who are growing maize,beans and potatoes on our water towers to leave,yet the politicians are backing them up.

Whatever we do now,be it planting trees or harvesting water will not reverse the damage.

Its simply a check mate from Mother Nature !


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Obi 1 Kanobi
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:25:00 AM
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Its really disappointing to see the gava trying to revive Panpaper. This thing is dead and inefficient. We don't have trees to make paper,paper is not a crucial industry like agriculture and in any case this company has not improved the lives of Webuye residents say the way Mumias,many tea companies,or the Dairy industry improves the lives of them rural folk.

This specific company has been proved beyond doubt that it cannot operate as a viable business. It doesn't even have a recycling plant,it also misuses water which is proving to be a scarce resource

Shut it down and sell its assets to someone in Congo where they can afford to chop down trees. Let Kenyans import paper,its even cheaper for the economy.


I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
dashauto
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:38:00 AM
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We lost it when we said that 'Wangari Mathai was a mad woman'!

Simple solution. We subdivide the remaining forest cover. Cut down all trees standing. Burn enough charchoal to last for atleast 10 years. Get enough money from timber. Stock enough timber products to last for the same period. Get down to ground zero. Then may be we will start thinking. Note I mean thinking and not replanting trees.

I always tell my friends that ' One day we will all wake up dead' Kizungu Ngumu lakini! But I mean It. Mas extermination.




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#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:55:00 PM
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I think people in cities/towns just step up and stop this silly idea of putting all their trash/garbage in the same bag. There should be separation of bottles/glass,paper,plastic,metal/cans and food waste.That way,those who are interested in recycling will have it easy. It will also encourage recycling and that will reduce pollution significantly. The garbage heaps all over will be a thing of the past since trash will be 'gold'. But so long as we see it as kanjo's duty to do everything to keep the city and the environment clean,we'll keep on wasting resources and denying ourselves economic opportunities. Separating your trash is a small act that will have a profound and positive impact on the environment and several pockets. Its a multi-billion thing.

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:33:00 PM
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Thanks Obi for bringing up this topic. I have just been thinking about the same for the last few days and I have come to the conclusion that no ordinary solution will solve this extraordinary problem. The situation in our water towers is dire. Kenyans are not people who obey laws so banning of logging will not do anything so here is my solution: Get the army into Mau,Aberdares,Cherangani and all other water towers and kick everybody out (tutapanga baadaye where they will go because if we wait to plan where they will go first they will still be there in 2079). After Evictions get the NYS in to plant indegenous trees in the felled areas. After the NYS guys are done let the army plant ANTI PERSONNEL MINES around and in the forests and leave. Let the natural forest areas be fenced off with signs all round telling all to keep off. Let there be a massive media campaign to inform Kenyans that all the forests are mined and dangerous and people should only venture in if they seek to see the creator face to face. Those who do will provide manure for the trees. The only maintenance natural forests need is to be left alone.

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niando
#17 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 6:55:00 AM
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Lake naivasha and elementaita are also drying up.Flamingos in Lake elementaita are just crowding in a small patch of the remaining waters of the former lake and they are so much vulnerable to preditors.

You can easily pity the resilient birds as they crowd to breed and survive in the waterless lake in a kind of a 'bird slum'.

As a local tourist,there may be nothing left to see in my beloved country unless we stop the noise and act now.



The Mau forest issue needs to be sorted out Now.
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Mainat
#18 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 7:05:00 AM
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Thanks to Ruto and others b4 him,Mau issue will either be resolved quickly (within next 1year) but with bloodshed or will take years before its resolved. Siasa mbaya,maisha mbaya.



Obi-this is a good and timely post but one of the other effects you've not mentioned is water-wars. In marginal districts like Laikipia,this will happen more and more often as pastoralists clash with crop farmers. In other areas,where there is dependancy on river flow,it'll also become a problem. And Mwea irrigation scheme for rice?





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#19 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2009 7:28:00 AM
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I believe that the problem of the environment in Kenya is very complex and requires a judicious balancing between economic development,livelihoods and environmental security. But what complicates the issue is politics of the belly- and when I say this I do not necesarily mean you shift your mind to the politicians. It begins with you.

How many of us are willing to pay more for a packet of yoghurt packed in a tetrapak rather than plastic?. Think of bread,milk,sugar,your supermarket shopping and the list is endless. When you drive over the bridges over the globe cinema roundabou,think of the source of the plastic- your house.

For those who do not know,Kenya has had one of the most ambitious environment laws in africa since 1999 but the destruction goes on unabated courtesy of politics and a moribund NEMA.

And lately,some leaders seem to think that the international community should sort out the Mau issue......stupid stupid stupid stupid.






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#20 Posted : Monday, October 05, 2009 3:22:00 PM
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Biogas as an alternative source of energy

A prison in Kenya is using inmate’s waste to power the kitchens and heating,reducing energy costs and improving the health of the prisoners.

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