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Is it the right time to buy CENTUM?
Ericsson
#21 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 10:36:15 AM
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Centum is dead;there is still no development on their real estate project at Two Rivers.
That's the reason Mworia reduced his shareholding in the company
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King G
#22 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 10:54:36 AM
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Centum will recover by 2017. They went into capital intensive ventures without proper cash outlays hence the mess they are in
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Spend.thrift
#23 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 11:13:43 AM
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King G wrote:
Centum will recover by 2017. They went into capital intensive ventures without proper cash outlays hence the mess they are in



Even if your 2017 prediction is right, I don't know what your basis, that a very long time to lock your money in a hybernating, maybe braindead stock. I had bought at 27 but painfully decided to cut my losses at sub 15 and shift to another stock. When things look up, I will cross that bridge.
Ericsson
#24 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 11:36:12 AM
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How sure are you they will recover.
Real estate projects have a very slow return
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mwekez@ji
#25 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 12:53:37 PM
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The company has a number of ambitious projects but it doesn’t have cash and the BIG Q remains where they will get the cash:
•KES 60B for Two Rivers project, Runda
•KES 6.8B to invest in four new companies in power, telecoms, financial services and manufacturing sectors in Kenya, Uganda, and Rwanda

With the current market sentiments, a rights issue will not do. So, how will they get these funds?
mwekez@ji
#26 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 12:55:21 PM
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No dividend, No bonus, unethical CEO & the CEO selling his shares. Such doesn’t auger well with the market.
PKoli
#27 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 1:07:51 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
No dividend, No bonus, unethical CEO & the CEO selling his shares. Such doesn’t auger well with the market.


The CEO owned too few shares in CENTUM. To me if he sells or not is neither here nor there unless he had 2M plus shares in the company.
mwekez@ji
#28 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 1:12:46 PM
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PKoli wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
No dividend, No bonus, unethical CEO & the CEO selling his shares. Such doesn’t auger well with the market.


The CEO owned too few shares in CENTUM. To me if he sells or not is neither here nor there unless he had 2M plus shares in the company.


The signal he has sent by selling the shares is very negative. If he was on the buying side, the signal would be very different.
kryptonite
#29 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 2:46:09 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
PKoli wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
No dividend, No bonus, unethical CEO & the CEO selling his shares. Such doesn’t auger well with the market.


The CEO owned too few shares in CENTUM. To me if he sells or not is neither here nor there unless he had 2M plus shares in the company.


The signal he has sent by selling the shares is very negative. If he was on the buying side, the signal would be very different.


You're right @mwekezaji, it's about the perception. There is also no incentive to hold on to this stock for the long-term... except maybe rosy promises from management
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King G
#30 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 3:06:56 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
The company has a number of ambitious projects but it doesn’t have cash and the BIG Q remains where they will get the cash:
•KES 60B for Two Rivers project, Runda
•KES 6.8B to invest in four new companies in power, telecoms, financial services and manufacturing sectors in Kenya, Uganda, and Rwanda

With the current market sentiments, a rights issue will not do. So, how will they get these funds?


What about Bonds
Thieves
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