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mwasjd
#11 Posted : Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:33:18 PM
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World Bank has finally produced the bucks, now waiting for the Chinese (who else) to be given the contract & start in January.

http://bit.ly/OM2qym

Though a bit concerned about the encroachment issues in Nairobi e.g. Eastern Bypass flyover at Cabanas hasn't moved in ages, while Southern Bypass should have been started from Mombasa Road. Of course Japanese aren't really impressing in Kileleshwa...
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eco
#12 Posted : Saturday, August 04, 2012 2:27:06 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
jamplu wrote:
probably that guys business doesn't involve moving around much. we waste so much man hours around these roundabouts.


His argument is that if we remove the roundabouts, we are likely to make things worse than they already are.

Secondly, he is wondering the point of building the overpass while the by-passes are expected to do exactly the same function, i.e., remove transit traffic from the city centre.

This then would have more to do with the driving behavior and less with the infrastructure. Roundabouts are for small low population towns with few vehicles, not for Metropolis with heavy traffic. In western EU for e.g. you hardly encounter any Roundabout along the Highways and Motorways. You may find one in the Peri-urban or a Suburb road though, but still rare.
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eco
#13 Posted : Saturday, August 04, 2012 2:49:18 PM
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kyt wrote:
rail is the way to go, we can eliminate price hikes and traffic jams for good.


I agree.
We should also promote safe cycling in Nairobi and other Kenyan towns? A bike is affordable, promotes physical exercise and thus health, cheap to maintain and saves time - no waiting for public transport or in jams, and reduces your carbon footprint.
Think of all the guys who walk from Kangemi to Parklands, Kibera to Inda etc. With the upgrade of the roads infrastructure in Nairobi, it is unfortunate that no safe cycle lanes are being put in place. By safe I imply particularly the roads and Highways crossing points for the would be cyclists.
Urban transport infrastructure should cater for all levels (pedestrian, cyclist, car and tram/train) and see their safe moving from point A to B. Putting to much emphasis to one of these is a planning mistake.
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mzeiya411
#14 Posted : Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:25:41 PM
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[quote=chiaroscuro] RINK: http://architecturekenya...-recast-by-eric-kigada/[/quote]
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tinker
#15 Posted : Sunday, August 05, 2012 8:14:53 PM
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Applause I agree
Torosh wrote:
@mkimwa Have you ever asked yourself who are the owners of these Petrol stations, the fleet of matatus/buses that consume this fuel? a rail system will lock this guys out of biz and that is wy we cannot achieve this if those who make the laws have their interest also in these sectors.

....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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eco
#16 Posted : Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:01:00 PM
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".....there is a planned duelling of Outer Ring Road in Nairobi at a cost of Sh6 billion starting next year.

“The project is geared at stimulating economic activities by speeding up transport of goods and services,” he said.

Other projects in the pipe line are the Haile Selassie-Ring Road-Pumwani junction and the Ring Road-Ngara-Juja Road-Komarock Road to Kangundo Road junction, which are expected to remove roundabouts to ease traffic congestion.
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rryyzz
#17 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 9:59:11 AM
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eco wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
jamplu wrote:
probably that guys business doesn't involve moving around much. we waste so much man hours around these roundabouts.


His argument is that if we remove the roundabouts, we are likely to make things worse than they already are.

Secondly, he is wondering the point of building the overpass while the by-passes are expected to do exactly the same function, i.e., remove transit traffic from the city centre.

This then would have more to do with the driving behavior and less with the infrastructure. Roundabouts are for small low population towns with few vehicles, not for Metropolis with heavy traffic. In western EU for e.g. you hardly encounter any Roundabout along the Highways and Motorways. You may find one in the Peri-urban or a Suburb road though, but still rare.

@ Eco, I agree with you. Most of the issues we have on our roads have to do with how we drive. If only Kenyans adhered to traffic rules, we would not be experiencing some of the nightmares we have to go through on our roads.
Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
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eco
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:21:05 AM
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eco wrote:
kyt wrote:
rail is the way to go, we can eliminate price hikes and traffic jams for good.


I agree.
We should also promote safe cycling in Nairobi and other Kenyan towns? A bike is affordable, promotes physical exercise and thus health, cheap to maintain and saves time - no waiting for public transport or in jams, and reduces your carbon footprint.
Think of all the guys who walk from Kangemi to Parklands, Kibera to Inda etc. With the upgrade of the roads infrastructure in Nairobi, it is unfortunate that no safe cycle lanes are being put in place. By safe I imply particularly the roads and Highways crossing points for the would be cyclists.
Urban transport infrastructure should cater for all levels (pedestrian, cyclist, car and tram/train) and see their safe moving from point A to B. Putting to much emphasis to one of these is a planning mistake.


I stand corrected by bwana PS. Great to see the planners have embraced NMTF according to this Presentation (Slide No. 23-24). I would park my car and ride anytime except during the rains, of course armed with a good Bike and a Helmet.
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