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Running on Empty: The Life & Triumphs of Samuel Kamau Wanjiru
Sarrouniya
#21 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 6:25:35 PM
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Having too much money can be a curse rather than a blessing. The sudden wealth puts pressure on you to do things differently and the guy could have been lost in it all. His mother's attitude did not help matters. I would like to believe she is one of the exceptions and in this case probably another parent would have stepped in. And the fact that both his 'fathers' tried compounds the problem. I place all the blame squarely on her shoulders.
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murchr
#22 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 6:46:41 PM
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Sarrouniya wrote:
Having too much money can be a curse rather than a blessing. The sudden wealth puts pressure on you to do things differently and the guy could have been lost in it all. His mother's attitude did not help matters. I would like to believe she is one of the exceptions and in this case probably another parent would have stepped in. And the fact that both his 'fathers' tried compounds the problem. I place all the blame squarely on her shoulders.



"Too much" is relative, may be to him it wasnt alot, he lacked financial management skills. The man had a weakness where women are involved and the little money that he had made the gals go bananas. What do we know about his mother and her attitude, we just saw her reaction after the son died. What failed this man most was the company he kept. I refuse to understand the how parenting failed him, if the same parenting made him a champion?
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essyk
#23 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 6:53:48 PM
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Wendz wrote:


So, what does it tell us about the 'fathers'?. you tell us, why weren't they coming out when he needed school fees and when he wasn't famous? Gold-diggers! and all you want us to see is his mother as a slut who struggled to raise him? Well, she could have been, but at least she raised a champion, dint she? On her own. And no, we didnt see a father figure, that didnt make him less a champion, did it?.... and it dint make him any worse than those raised by both families.... how many bankrupt people have we seen raised up by both parents? Moi's son being one of them(with a pinch of salt), and many guys back in the village who do not make headlines! if it is about women, what would you like to say about Wamalwa kijana (God rest his soul in peace)? and many others... They were also brought up by single mothers? It's all about life choices. Not much about who brought you up as long as they were responsible parents.


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aemathenge
#24 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 7:00:05 PM
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May be I read the series wrong.

His mother did not make him a champion, The Japanese did.
essyk
#25 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 7:49:02 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
May be I read the series wrong.

His mother did not make him a champion, The Japanese did.


His mother made him man before the chinese made him champion.
Wiped his butt,nose,washed his clothes,spanked him, the whole difficult upbringing stuff?
That is very important and nt to be forgotten.
i think i understand why she was carrying the panga.
we saw a mad woman but she was seeing the struggles of raising him.
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aemathenge
#26 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 7:53:54 PM
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essyk wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
May be I read the series wrong.

His mother did not make him a champion, The Japanese did.


His mother made him man before the chinese made him champion.
Wiped his butt,nose,washed his clothes,spanked him, the whole difficult upbringing stuff?
That is very important and nt to be forgotten.
i think i understand why she was carrying the panga.
we saw a mad woman but she was seeing the struggles of raising him.


99.9% of mothers do that. It is expected. Nothing abnormal in that.

But to create a champion among men. That takes genius.
aemathenge
#27 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 8:09:46 PM
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Put it another way, when he is (was) in the normal world, basically his mother's world, he is (was) totally indisciplined.

However when in a father figure world, such as the Japanese School, The Training Centres, on the Track aganist other contenders, the Champion shown through.

What the father figure world did not have the opportunity to mould in him was financial acumen.

Perhaps if the Japanese had also included Financial Administration with practical aspects in the curriculum, who knows, he could have ended up a billionare.

Incidently, do we have Financial acumen boot camps anywhere?
essyk
#28 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 8:12:04 PM
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aemathenge wrote:

99.9% of mothers do that. It is expected. Nothing abnormal in that.

But to create a champion among men. That takes genius.

True. It takes a genious to create a champion.
But the champion makes use of natural talent.It's only refined and polished.
So what does it take to sustain the champion/ship?
Isn't that what really matters? and Wanjiru made a blunder there?

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However when in a father figure world, such as the Japanese School, The Training Centres, on the Track aganist other contenders, the Champion shown through.


Oh so this is the Father figure world? suppose the japanese schools and training centres were run by women only would they still be called 'father figure world?'
I need to know what a father world really means.Honestly apart from a father my dad ie.
Is it 'manly games,movies ,schools,sports?
Do they make a man?



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murchr
#29 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 8:23:43 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
May be I read the series wrong.

His mother did not make him a champion, The Japanese did.


What made him stand out so that the Japanese can make him the champion that he eventually became? He must have had some discipline. These coaches look for skill..the unpolished diamonds, its the mother who made that diamond the jap just polished it.
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tycho
#30 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 8:44:35 PM
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This society is father figure enough. For the language of money is controlled by the fathers. What Wanjiru did is what any young man with lots of money and races to come would do.

I once heard that in his early days Will Smith lost all his money, and he had to do some 'rehab' to know what to do with himself.

And please also count the millions of mature people who spend their last days in bankruptcy.

The hot issue here, is how death can so suddenly reveal the vanity of our lives.
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