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‘Bring me down and kill the reform dream’
Rahatupu
#11 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 9:15:57 AM
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harrydre wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Kratos wrote:
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This dude should drop the reform "credentials" he gives himself, more of an opportunist than reformer.

‘Bring me down and kill the reform dream’


I thought he was wholesomely advised to avoid reacting to Miguna? But all along I knew that was a loooooong order for one OAR.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Thought so too...it's hard for oar to just let it go...now this might even ignite more reactions just when i thought MM was gone and 'dead'!



Me love this: The only person pregnant with the "reform dream" is RAO, so if you kill this pregnant person you as well kill the reforms baby. The best quack to do the abortion is one nsis.
Wendz
#12 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 9:48:11 AM
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Kratos wrote:
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
This dude should drop the reform "credentials" he gives himself, more of an opportunist than reformer.

‘Bring me down and kill the reform dream’


I thought i heard this "reform strategy" was Miguu na miguu na....'s baby? I dont think RAO got the concept and he's gonna kill the strategy if he over does it. He'll raise more questions, scrutinies etc than ever and with the "strategist" out of his park, he might just not get the whole idea. Remember, all those on the other side have worked with him at one time or the other and know for sure if there has been any reforms or not.... Personally, i am trying to look hard.... may be i might un-earth some reforms..... all i've known him to do is to jump ship, even when the ship is his own and abandon it to a "cleaner-looking" one....

someone(a hater may be) said if his son is following his father's footsteps in "ship-jumping", he might end up getting married every election year! So single ladies can still hold on to their dreams!
Lucid_Iam
#13 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 10:06:04 AM
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One question that I keep asking myself is, are we really this daft as Kenyans to buy some of this claims about NSIS, political enemies, etc. If we truly are, the we surely deserve this kind of leaders.
maligumu
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:35:40 AM
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I think he should deal with the issues Miguna raised before its too late politically, but with the kind of advisors who still believe that in this age and technology era Kenyans still don't read and also forget first , they will rudely learn that Miguna shot in the air has woken even the sleeping babies .
Peace be with you
marko
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:47:08 AM
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Someone tell me this. Why would nsis fund a book aimed to discredit oar,have it sold at 3k while knowing that majority of kenyans wont afford it. I believe with technology,they can use better and cheaper means of destroying his credibility.
WHO DARES WINS
Iganamagana
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:58:27 AM
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I think i missed some memo. So our reform dreams were pegged to Baba Makarios? If so, then we are in for a lot of trouble.
abdulrahman
#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:07:04 AM
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The "reformer" is indeed a "reformer".

I have never seen or heard something he reformed in Kibera.
nostoppingthis
#18 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:29:06 AM
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Are we all saying here that non of the leading politicians are reformers, but we still vote them in anyway?
nakujua
#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:39:27 AM
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harrydre wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Kratos wrote:
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
This dude should drop the reform "credentials" he gives himself, more of an opportunist than reformer.

‘Bring me down and kill the reform dream’


I thought he was wholesomely advised to avoid reacting to Miguna? But all along I knew that was a loooooong order for one OAR.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Thought so too...it's hard for oar to just let it go...now this might even ignite more reactions just when i thought MM was gone and 'dead'!


just because the mainstream media and social networks have stopped talking about does not mean mashinani guys are not talking, most kenyans don't have access to the internet, actually most read old newspapers - I think thats why he gave the interview to the newspaper guys.
nakujua
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:43:47 AM
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abdulrahman wrote:
The "reformer" is indeed a "reformer".

I have never seen or heard something he reformed in Kibera.


well, I don't think we can measure his alleged reforms from kibera - I think that's being a tad too harsh on him.
I think he played some part in the reform movement in the 80's and maybe early 90's.

He was not the among the major guys, but he was in there somewhere.
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