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guru267
#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:24:53 PM
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Those who are saying they can buy a house of 10M and rent it out for 100k are delusional!

Mark 12:29
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luttz
#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:31:15 PM
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@ Guru267! I could be delusional but I wonder who said he would buy a house at 10M and rent it out at 100K? The language used is very basic even for my PP3 daughter.
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Pablo
#13 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:24:31 AM
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Actually Luttz, this is the same problem I face. Land where you can build something decent on is too expensive. The affordable one is too far off. Unless you buy and wait 2 years for development to come closer.

@guru
Did you know that a house built using 3.2M + 1M for land will sell for 7-8M comfortably. This is a comfortable 4Br single story unit this would take 6-8months to build with ready cash. I dont think stocks can come close to that. Only challenge is its quite some work.
accelriskconsult
#14 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:18:42 AM
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Pablo wrote:
Actually Luttz, this is the same problem I face. Land where you can build something decent on is too expensive. The affordable one is too far off. Unless you buy and wait 2 years for development to come closer.

@guru
Did you know that a house built using 3.2M + 1M for land will sell for 7-8M comfortably. This is a comfortable 4Br single story unit this would take 6-8months to build with ready cash. I dont think stocks can come close to that. Only challenge is its quite some work.



Pablo how about partnering with landowners who do not have the cash required to develop it? South C, around Madina and Elegance has some nice empty lots of land.
smallfama
#15 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:16:48 AM
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Pablo, congrats. Let me say u are where I want to be in some years. Is the 30M available in cash or you are yet to dispose the house? My advice would be if the cash is available, just look for land in upcoming suburbs and target middle income earners i.e. areas like Kitengela, Mavoko, Kabete e.t.c You can design a small estate of say 5-10 maisonettes for sale at 7M-8M. If the cash is not enough you can approach a bank and get into an agreement where you borrow and pay interest on the loan during the construction and then interest+principle once you start selling the units. The bank will require you to raise at least 30% of the project amount. I saw such a development of 18 houses in Kitengela and the houses were sold out before completion. Maybe you can give a discount to cash buyers to unlock value faster.
nostoppingthis
#16 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:21:00 AM
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Pray Pray @ Pablo, I have re-read the post above and still can't believe you've decided to sell it, but i'm sure you have evaluated and looked at the pros and cons....that is one good house, especially with the promising developments in the area and proximity to the main road.
young
#17 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:07:55 AM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
Pray Pray @ Pablo, I have re-read the post above and still can't believe you've decided to sell it, but i'm sure you have evaluated and looked at the pros and cons....that is one good house, especially with the promising developments in the area and proximity to the main road.



If the location is so good, let it reflect in the selling price. If 30M is very reasonable he can step it up. I do not believe one has to be emotionally attached to a house you are not living if you know what it takes to build cheaply
and get a wide markup.
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young
#18 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:37:03 AM
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PROBLEM OF GOOD LAND LOCATION

@Pabio & @Luttz,
What I will suggest might be mere theory as I am not on ground there.

There is an average asking price for good locations and the prices are very prohibitive.
I know and believe there are some opportunities when you keep some ears on the ground and interact, this will give you some leads, do not give up.

Most high brow areas have adjoining suburbs which are not as highly priced like the main area.
I was privy to one Mzee that brought 1/2 acre Rongai not far from Bomas land for sale to Faida Investment bank for 5M. I do not know how genuine it is but that is where conducting due diligence and negotiating comes in.
You should not sale your house, emplore these possibilities, encounter one or two missed opportunities t0o be encouraged to sell your house.
I strongly believe this is possible if you keep your ears on the ground. This involves interacting with estate developers, the middle level work force and at times parting with 200 bob
or 500 for Unga !!!.
Equally analyze @accelriskconsult suggetion.

Here in Nigeria it was by intearaction and leads
that helped me to secure a land worth 15M for 7M.
This land is directly behind a high brow area.
I went to estate developer that market land in that vicinity, they asked me what is my budget, I answered 5M, they bursted into laughter, that the minimum land I can see in that vicinity is 20M ie
4 times my budget. I called one of them that looks friendly parted with 750 bob equivaent, got his cell phone number. 3 weeks later he called me for an opportunity closeby to the estate plot they have fully sold and the asking promo price was 7M !!!. I did my due diligence made 50% deposit in Dec 2011. In Jan 2012 the price of the land has been jerked up to 15M, had it been I did not make the deposit they would not have accepted 7M because of demand.
As at now the same land goes for 20M. Why ? Because our MPs swooped on the land with ready CASH in March 2012.A completed duplex house there goes for 70M.

All my dealings on land here in Nigeria and neighbouring Ghana and even far away Uganda has always been by leads from friends or UNGA!!!

You can now understand why I said confidently thatyou can find one within a close vicinity of a high brow suburb irrespective of the high price they are calling.

Stocks @Guru267,
It is difficult to convince a core stock person to real estate. It is as hard as converting a christian to muslim.
We have one local adage :-
If you see the stupid pig using mouth to dig ground, it is seeing something other animals are not seeing "

I have had a good ride with testimonies with real estate because I did my research and was convinced to plunge into it just 4 years ago.
I will continue to combine real estate with stocks.
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
Pablo
#19 Posted : Friday, July 20, 2012 8:57:52 AM
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@nostoppingthis - I once got the concept of business from a good asian friend of mine who says everything is on sale except his wife and kids. For the right price he will take off his Watch, shoes and hand them over to u.

@young
That Unga thing sounds like it can actually work. I think Ill just start the looking using it.

Another though why go to upmarket areas while middle/low income areas areas may give u better return. E.g. Ive seen my uncle sell a 4 block of 4 by 2-br apts in South B and use the proceeds to purchase a 1/8th acre in Kariobangi and proceed to put up a 4 storey block of 30 x 1br units. This almost doubled his income.
vky
#20 Posted : Friday, July 20, 2012 10:39:06 AM
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@pablo hfck is putting up 3 bedroom units in komarock ph 5, prices start at 6m when complete and rents can peak upto 40k/M, with the kind of cash your talking getting maybe 4-5 units, rent them out for about 3yrs while they appriciate in value then sell at maybe 8.5M and you could make 12.5M profit+rental income over the three years, ad say thats a tidy return for a 30M investment in under 5 years if all things go well
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