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emlyn ngwiri
#11 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 6:29:52 PM
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@Rollout what you have said about swaption is fine. what would happen then to the COSTS when interest rates fall and what impact would it have on the banks profits?

Rollout
#12 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 9:08:43 PM
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It took me a few minutes to understand your question so maybe you want to re-read and correct it.

First you explain a situation where the bank is recieving a fixed rate for loans issued and paying variable rates for deposits. In a situation like this swaption is not the best risk management technique the spread between the spot rate and the rate the bank give for deposits very much absorb the short term rate risk.
But if this is a textbook question then anyone can scratch some simple to complex risk management techniques but under normal business sense Swap will not come into the picture because of so many other factors.
emlyn ngwiri
#13 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2012 5:51:09 PM
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rollout, this was my hypothetical scenario in order to establish whether it would be economically viable to use swaps as compared to other techniques on the basis of cost for hedging,going forward once intoduced in the country.

your view as to whether it will come into the picture is not relevant and is not a text book question.

When one does research, a person is set to answer some research questions that is the essence of this forum i thought?
Rollout
#14 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2012 6:57:49 PM
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Emlyn, Under the exact hypothetical scenario you presents, swap is not viable.
emlyn ngwiri
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:06:30 PM
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Really? what options would you recommend as a way to curb the rise in interest rate in the short term on the deposits (remember the banks deposits are invested in other currencies (stong currencies)
Mainat
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:52:05 PM
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An interest rate swap for KCB seems somewhat unnecessary given it pays zero interest rate for its deposits
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emlyn ngwiri
#17 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:01:39 AM
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but it effectively hedges the exposure to intrerest rate fluctuations doesnt it?

i think what is key is the risk management and not getting something out of the deposits(preservation is of high priority and not return)

Mainat
#18 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:15:29 AM
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Not sure you understand the purpose of an interest rate hedge especially in the Kenyan context i.e. you only do search a hedge if you believe that interest expense on a given a loan will be higher than interest received. Hardly likely to happen for most banks. Except HF which has a serious mismatch between deposits and loans
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Rollout
#19 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:30:47 PM
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@Emlyn
There are other effective measures to undertake on the scenerior you presented, I think you're more intrigued with swaps, but swap is not used in the scenerior you presented. Here are viable ways.

1) Offer fix rate on deposits
2) Take appropriate positions on investments on deposited fund
3)Buy bonds with coupon schedule payment that matches interest payment schedule on deposits
4) Apply appropriate spread between interest paid on deposit and time series regressional floating rates
Swaps are way too complex transactions than it is presented in reading materials.
tonicasert
#20 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:16:45 PM
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Hi Emlyn,

A hedge is essentially taken to protect against market risk. Deposits rates on the other hand are not really mkt rissk but determined by the management of a bank based on various facters such as theeir liquidity, asset growth plans, cbr rate etc.

An interest rate swap will be used to hedge against adverse movement in a mkt traded benchmark such as libor. Some facilities / bonds issued at libor + spread will be at the mercies of libor movements (for a moment ignoring the manipulation scandal for sm london banks), should such a rate rise in future.

So essentiialy it boils down to: will u take A swap to hedge against a management decision or market risk (which the bank wont have control). Thats why it may not apply in the scenario u describe
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