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Jacy26
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:46:35 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:

They take those little babies, they killed, they liquidate them and they put them into makeup, so now you can kill a baby and wear it on your face.


OMG! ati what? Pray Pray Pray
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abdulrahman
#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:09:30 AM
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people championing abortion is like satanism ! Nkt, Abortion is not a right
Kaka M
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:27:40 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
We call upon our government to think of legalizing abortion.
A time has come for our people to exercise their freedom as outlined in constitution . Our women needs a choice to plan their lives .
Nobody should be denied their natural justice .our women should stand up and demand their rights.
The advantages of Legalizing abortion are many especially in Kenya's young growing society .


@ Tokyo, who is "WE?" Secondly would you please mention several advantages of legalizing abortion.
As u do the same give us a solution to fighting of Fighting HIV Aids because the circumstances in which people get pregnant and thus choose to go for abortions are the same ones that cause HIV.

Finally, In kenya we have a number of challenges such as domestic Violence, lack to proper healthcare for so many people, A very large population living below poverty line, drought and famine almost every year, Lack of clean water for many, crime,Drug abuse, Unemployment recent acts of terrorism, MRC, the list is almost endless why do u only pick on Legalizing abortion?
mkeiyd
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:33:54 PM
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Does legalizing abortion mean people will just have them anyhow? As much as we would want ladies to carry pregnancy to term, there are benefits that abortion do bring,to specific group[s] of people.
Wholesome condemnation won't help anyone.
Picture a commercial sex worker who gets pregnant accidentally,what is she to do? Your guess is as good as mine if all pregnancies were to have been carried to term.
All i know, things would be uglier for such groups n society in general.
Ms Mkenya
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:56:29 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
Does legalizing abortion mean people will just have them anyhow? As much as we would want ladies to carry pregnancy to term, there are benefits that abortion do bring,to specific group[s] of people.
Wholesome condemnation won't help anyone.
Picture a commercial sex worker who gets pregnant accidentally,what is she to do? Your guess is as good as mine if all pregnancies were to have been carried to term.
All i know, things would be uglier for such groups n society in general.


Those two phrases cannot go together. If she is a CSW, she should know better & take contraceptives if she is going to give services without protection.
....above all, to stand.
AlphDoti
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:03:41 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
mkeiyd wrote:
Does legalizing abortion mean people will just have them anyhow? As much as we would want ladies to carry pregnancy to term, there are benefits that abortion do bring,to specific group[s] of people.
Wholesome condemnation won't help anyone.
Picture a commercial sex worker who gets pregnant accidentally,what is she to do? Your guess is as good as mine if all pregnancies were to have been carried to term.
All i know, things would be uglier for such groups n society in general.


Those two phrases cannot go together. If she is a CSW, she should know better & take contraceptives if she is going to give services without protection.


@Ms Mkenya that's wisdom and good response there Applause
abdulrahman
#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:09:34 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
mkeiyd wrote:
Does legalizing abortion mean people will just have them anyhow? As much as we would want ladies to carry pregnancy to term, there are benefits that abortion do bring,to specific group[s] of people.
Wholesome condemnation won't help anyone.
Picture a commercial sex worker who gets pregnant accidentally,what is she to do? Your guess is as good as mine if all pregnancies were to have been carried to term.
All i know, things would be uglier for such groups n society in general.


Those two phrases cannot go together. If she is a CSW, she should know better & take contraceptives if she is going to give services without protection.


Ditto !
tycho
#18 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:25:58 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
Does legalizing abortion mean people will just have them anyhow? As much as we would want ladies to carry pregnancy to term, there are benefits that abortion do bring,to specific group[s] of people.
Wholesome condemnation won't help anyone.
Picture a commercial sex worker who gets pregnant accidentally,what is she to do? Your guess is as good as mine if all pregnancies were to have been carried to term.
All i know, things would be uglier for such groups n society in general.


What does it mean when someone says that there is such thing as an accidental pregnancy?

No doubt, a conceptual model based on the individual as the center of action, and intention, has this possibility.

But what if we used a model focused on conversation as the center of action?

What words are used in the commercial sex transaction? 'I will pay you this amount for that kind of sexual experience.'

But who is 'I'? At any one time, the I is a collection of names, roles . . . relationships that are cybernetic.

Now, if the speaker is aware of this as is the hearer, and there is agreement, then there would be consensus on the consequences of what ensues.

As long as the 'I' is centered on conversation and there is consciousness of this fact, there is no way an actor will willingly terminate another actor's life. People in this case are, even before biological conception, even the buried are.

There is no pro-life, or pro-choice in this case; only life as intuition in a Bergsonian sense.

But when consciousness of the 'I' is seperated from the whole - the past, the future and the present, 'an individual' will act selfishly - 'individualistically.' But the 'individual' doesn't exist in fact!

To utter the word 'arbotion' is to submit to the powers of selfishness - read deception.

Nabwire
#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:27:58 PM
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Tycho pliz rudia what you have just written, in Swa.
Do you by any chance believe in Scientology? Maybe you can tell me the essence of this book that was recommended to me, all I got from it is a headache! Psycho Cybernetics
tycho
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:40:03 PM
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Nabwire wrote:

Do you by any chance believe in Scientology? Maybe you can tell me the essence of this book that was recommended to me, all I got from it is a headache! Psycho Cybernetics


Why should one believe in something when truth is about being? You don't have to read the book at all, just think about these things for yourself, and everything will be clear.
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