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PKoli
#51 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 1:47:37 PM
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the deal wrote:
FYI: Generation (Kengen)--->Transmission (Kenatraco)--->Distribution (Kenya Power).

In other countries the generation and transmission is handled by one company I.e Eskom of SA. The distribution is left to regions, provinces and independent companies, so counties in Kenya can distribute their own power bought from Kengen & other IPP's cutting out KP in the process.


Very correct Deal, only problem is our network is too small to be split economically. Eskom has generating capacity of about 35,000 MW against our 1,400 MW. Also, note that in most of the areas KP already has transmission capacity. I agree though, with new energy bill and act, KP will lose out..
slykat
#52 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 1:50:44 PM
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the deal wrote:
FYI: Generation (Kengen)--->Transmission (Kenatraco)--->Distribution (Kenya Power).

In other countries the generation and transmission is handled by one company I.e Eskom of SA. The distribution is left to regions, provinces and independent companies, so counties in Kenya can distribute their own power bought from Kengen & other IPP's cutting out KP in the process.


It's the trend. Generation n distribution liberalized. Leaves transmission intact as u said. I would expect TCL to jump on board in distribution n thus create biz for eacb.

I raised these possibilities exactly a year ago and was laughed off as a wishful thinker by stake-holders.
PKoli
#53 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 1:59:54 PM
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slykat wrote:
the deal wrote:
FYI: Generation (Kengen)--->Transmission (Kenatraco)--->Distribution (Kenya Power).

In other countries the generation and transmission is handled by one company I.e Eskom of SA. The distribution is left to regions, provinces and independent companies, so counties in Kenya can distribute their own power bought from Kengen & other IPP's cutting out KP in the process.


It's the trend. Generation n distribution liberalized. Leaves transmission intact as u said. I would expect TCL to jump on board in distribution n thus create biz for eacb.

I raised these possibilities exactly a year ago and was laughed off as a wishful thinker by stake-holders.


That is how most markets were liberalized. As we grow our generation capacity and hence distribution, this should be the trend.
mnandii
#54 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 2:23:34 PM
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slykat wrote:
the deal wrote:
FYI: Generation (Kengen)--->Transmission (Kenatraco)--->Distribution (Kenya Power).

In other countries the generation and transmission is handled by one company I.e Eskom of SA. The distribution is left to regions, provinces and independent companies, so counties in Kenya can distribute their own power bought from Kengen & other IPP's cutting out KP in the process.


It's the trend. Generation n distribution liberalized. Leaves transmission intact as u said. I would expect TCL to jump on board in distribution n thus create biz for eacb.

I raised these possibilities exactly a year ago and was laughed off as a wishful thinker by stake-holders.


Some of us didn't laugh. smile
It's true ppl tend to project the present into the future and forget that we are where we are bcoz someone thought out of the box.
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rryyzz
#55 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:46:35 AM
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mnandii wrote:
slykat wrote:
the deal wrote:
FYI: Generation (Kengen)--->Transmission (Kenatraco)--->Distribution (Kenya Power).

In other countries the generation and transmission is handled by one company I.e Eskom of SA. The distribution is left to regions, provinces and independent companies, so counties in Kenya can distribute their own power bought from Kengen & other IPP's cutting out KP in the process.


It's the trend. Generation n distribution liberalized. Leaves transmission intact as u said. I would expect TCL to jump on board in distribution n thus create biz for eacb.

I raised these possibilities exactly a year ago and was laughed off as a wishful thinker by stake-holders.


Some of us didn't laugh. smile
It's true ppl tend to project the present into the future and forget that we are where we are bcoz someone thought out of the box.


FYI Transmission is not solely on KETRACO. Kenya Power is both on transmission and distribution. But like you say things aren't so rosy for Kenya Paraffin & Lamps Co.
Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
PKoli
#56 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:54:47 AM
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rryyzz wrote:
mnandii wrote:
slykat wrote:
the deal wrote:
FYI: Generation (Kengen)--->Transmission (Kenatraco)--->Distribution (Kenya Power).

In other countries the generation and transmission is handled by one company I.e Eskom of SA. The distribution is left to regions, provinces and independent companies, so counties in Kenya can distribute their own power bought from Kengen & other IPP's cutting out KP in the process.


It's the trend. Generation n distribution liberalized. Leaves transmission intact as u said. I would expect TCL to jump on board in distribution n thus create biz for eacb.

I raised these possibilities exactly a year ago and was laughed off as a wishful thinker by stake-holders.


Some of us didn't laugh. smile
It's true ppl tend to project the present into the future and forget that we are where we are bcoz someone thought out of the box.


FYI Transmission is not solely on KETRACO. Kenya Power is both on transmission and distribution. But like you say things aren't so rosy for Kenya Paraffin & Lamps Co.


Kenya Power only owns the old transmission system, new ones being constructed will be owned by Ketraco.
rryyzz
#57 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:33:15 PM
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PKoli wrote:
rryyzz wrote:
mnandii wrote:
slykat wrote:
the deal wrote:
FYI: Generation (Kengen)--->Transmission (Kenatraco)--->Distribution (Kenya Power).

In other countries the generation and transmission is handled by one company I.e Eskom of SA. The distribution is left to regions, provinces and independent companies, so counties in Kenya can distribute their own power bought from Kengen & other IPP's cutting out KP in the process.


It's the trend. Generation n distribution liberalized. Leaves transmission intact as u said. I would expect TCL to jump on board in distribution n thus create biz for eacb.

I raised these possibilities exactly a year ago and was laughed off as a wishful thinker by stake-holders.


Some of us didn't laugh. smile
It's true ppl tend to project the present into the future and forget that we are where we are bcoz someone thought out of the box.


FYI Transmission is not solely on KETRACO. Kenya Power is both on transmission and distribution. But like you say things aren't so rosy for Kenya Paraffin & Lamps Co.


Kenya Power only owns the old transmission system, new ones being constructed will be owned by Ketraco.

Partly true.I know they are also putting up their own transmission lines. The transmission business has not fully gone to KETRACO yet.
Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
PKoli
#58 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:07:42 PM
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@ry..
Any new transmission lines, if KP is putting them up, they are doing it on behalf of Ketraco.
guru267
#59 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:39:58 PM
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PKoli wrote:
@ry..
Any new transmission lines, if KP is putting them up, they are doing it on behalf of Ketraco.


i think this is a lie!!
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PKoli
#60 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:54:35 PM
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guru267 wrote:
PKoli wrote:
@ry..
Any new transmission lines, if KP is putting them up, they are doing it on behalf of Ketraco.


i think this is a lie!!


unless you are confusing transmission with distribution; I am correct
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