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jaggernaut
#1 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 2:53:52 PM
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They repaired our road kwa estate before the recent rains and then they came back 2 weeks ago and promptly filled all potholes that were caused by the heavy rains. Potholes are now becoming very rare due to their good work. Kanjo even sent workers to trim the grass on the sides of the road and clear the storm water drainage. Kweli serikal inafanya kazi. A working nation.
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Robinhood
#2 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 3:12:53 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
They repaired our road kwa estate before the recent rains and then they came back 2 weeks ago and promptly filled all potholes that were caused by the heavy rains. Potholes are now becoming very rare due to their good work. Kanjo even sent workers to trim the grass on the sides of the road and clear the storm water drainage. Kweli serikal inafanya kazi. A working nation.


@Jagger, you must live next to some big fish. I assure you that this is not happening in many places
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jaggernaut
#3 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 3:32:47 PM
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Robinhood wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
They repaired our road kwa estate before the recent rains and then they came back 2 weeks ago and promptly filled all potholes that were caused by the heavy rains. Potholes are now becoming very rare due to their good work. Kanjo even sent workers to trim the grass on the sides of the road and clear the storm water drainage. Kweli serikal inafanya kazi. A working nation.


@Jagger, you must live next to some big fish. I assure you that this is not happening in many places


I don't live next to a big fish. The road had been neglected for years and we can't believe that the govt/KURA/Kanjo has suddenly swung into action and is now maintaining the road. It should be something to do with the huge funds allocated to KURA for road maintenance.
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#4 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 4:46:24 PM
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#5 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 5:29:36 PM
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Thought you were joking, esp with the line that suggests the road got potholes immediately after construction...

the contractor has a cash cow in his hands...
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:50:55 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
They repaired our road kwa estate before the recent rains and then they came back 2 weeks ago and promptly filled all potholes that were caused by the heavy rains.

And this is something to celebrate why?

I have seen Kenyan roads built by the Chinese that are 20 years old and have never got a single pothole!!! Or it doesn't rain on Chinese built roads???

On the other hand, SS Mehta recarpets Waiyaki way [same sections] every year!!! sometimes twice a year! Every time a drive by and find their tracks, I feel like smashing someone's head!!! Is this my money being wasted like this? Didn't we just pay these fellows last year - and the one before that - and the one before that - to do the same job??? ABK!!!

I'm not celebrating!!!
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bkismat
#7 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:09:12 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
They repaired our road kwa estate before the recent rains and then they came back 2 weeks ago and promptly filled all potholes that were caused by the heavy rains.

And this is something to celebrate why?

I have seen Kenyan roads built by the Chinese that are 20 years old and have never got a single pothole!!! Or it doesn't rain on Chinese builf roads???

On the other hand, SS Mehta recarpets Waiyaki way [same sections] every year!!! sometimes twice a year! Every time a drive by and find their tracks, I feel like smashing someone's head!!! Is this my money being wasted like this? Didn't we just pay these fellows last year - and the one before that - and the one before that - to do the same job??? ABK!!!

I'm not celebrating!!!

Any decent highway engineer designs a road wth a design life of at least 15 years before any maintainance is carried out on it. Whoever is incharge of that road should be sacked.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:25:29 PM
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bkismat wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
They repaired our road kwa estate before the recent rains and then they came back 2 weeks ago and promptly filled all potholes that were caused by the heavy rains.

And this is something to celebrate why?

I have seen Kenyan roads built by the Chinese that are 20 years old and have never got a single pothole!!! Or it doesn't rain on Chinese builf roads???

On the other hand, SS Mehta recarpets Waiyaki way [same sections] every year!!! sometimes twice a year! Every time a drive by and find their tracks, I feel like smashing someone's head!!! Is this my money being wasted like this? Didn't we just pay these fellows last year - and the one before that - and the one before that - to do the same job??? ABK!!!

I'm not celebrating!!!

Any decent highway engineer designs a road wth a design life of at least 15 years before any maintainance is carried out on it. Whoever is incharge of that road should be sacked.


Same should apply for Enterprise road. Was that road certified as completed given the rough edges near Likoni road and around Equity bank?
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:57:11 PM
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Any decent highway engineer designs a road wth a design life of at least 15 years before any maintainance is carried out on it. Whoever is incharge of that road should be sacked.[/quote]

Correction: A tarmac road (also called a flexible pavement) should last 10 to 15 years WITH maintenance

The most important thing to maintain on a road is the drainage.
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Allank
#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:31:20 PM
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@bkismat I am glad I am not the only one who feels like smashing some bogus contractor's head!!! now that the chinese have upped the game.

Any one who has been to jogoo Rd off late? I am meant to understand cresent has been re-carpeting that road before thika rd was started and is still on site when the Chinese are already done with the super highway! worst still is the section between muthurwa and city stadium is shoddily done and the contractor is using some stone age technology to make the drainage! Why cant this pple borrow a leaf from the Chinese as a road is as good as its drainage system GRRRR!!!!pesa yetuu
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:38:36 PM
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bkismat wrote:
Any decent highway engineer designs a road wth a design life of at least 15 years before any maintainance is carried out on it. Whoever is incharge of that road should be sacked.


That can't work in Kenya. If you do a very good job that won't require repairs, what will you do next year? That's like writing yourself off a job.

BBI will solve it :)
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:56:43 PM
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Allank wrote:
@bkismat I am glad I am not the only one who feels like smashing some bogus contractor's head!!! now that the chinese have upped the game.

Any one who has been to jogoo Rd off late? I am meant to understand cresent has been re-carpeting that road before thika rd was started and is still on site when the Chinese are already done with the super highway! worst still is the section between muthurwa and city stadium is shoddily done and the contractor is using some stone age technology to make the drainage! Why cant this pple borrow a leaf from the Chinese as a road is as good as its drainage system GRRRR!!!!pesa yetuu


Thank u so so much for bringing this up.

Rubbish substandard work going on there.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:28:31 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
They repaired our road kwa estate before the recent rains and then they came back 2 weeks ago and promptly filled all potholes that were caused by the heavy rains.

And this is something to celebrate why?

I have seen Kenyan roads built by the Chinese that are 20 years old and have never got a single pothole!!! Or it doesn't rain on Chinese built roads???

On the other hand, SS Mehta recarpets Waiyaki way [same sections] every year!!! sometimes twice a year! Every time a drive by and find their tracks, I feel like smashing someone's head!!! Is this my money being wasted like this? Didn't we just pay these fellows last year - and the one before that - and the one before that - to do the same job??? ABK!!!

I'm not celebrating!!!

just curious on the roads that were done by chinese 20 years ago.name them please and for your info ss mehta is the one who tarmacked the current tom mboya street in 1957
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:40:26 AM
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The dual carriage from Thika to Kenol built by TM-AM construction in the early 1980s is still intact todate. That more than 26 years.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:59:06 AM
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SS Mehta re-carpeted Waiyaki way and less than six months down the line potholes are worse than before! Seems like they are using Super Glue instead of Lami. Maybe we should stop ranting and put the Minister to task or sue the contractor.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:56:36 AM
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Bachuma Gate wrote:
The dual carriage from Thika to Kenol built by TM-AM construction in the early 1980s is still intact todate. That more than 26 years.

inaccurate. It was built around 1993-1994. Before then we were using the kabati road that runs close to the current dual carriage. And that old road was bad bad. They only recarpeted it just before opening the dual carriage
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:10:42 PM
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Bachuma Gate wrote:
The dual carriage from Thika to Kenol built by TM-AM construction in the early 1980s is still intact todate. That more than 26 years.


Exactly! I've wondered why TM-AM doesn't get these construction contracts that go to Kirinyaga, Nyoro, Crescent, Intex, Krishan Behal, Kabuito and SS Mehta. A bunch of corrupt companies who do shoddy work all the time!

20+ years without a single pothole, TM-AM must have done something very right.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:19:50 PM
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mawinder wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
They repaired our road kwa estate before the recent rains and then they came back 2 weeks ago and promptly filled all potholes that were caused by the heavy rains.

And this is something to celebrate why?

I have seen Kenyan roads built by the Chinese that are 20 years old and have never got a single pothole!!! Or it doesn't rain on Chinese built roads???

On the other hand, SS Mehta recarpets Waiyaki way [same sections] every year!!! sometimes twice a year! Every time a drive by and find their tracks, I feel like smashing someone's head!!! Is this my money being wasted like this? Didn't we just pay these fellows last year - and the one before that - and the one before that - to do the same job??? ABK!!!

I'm not celebrating!!!

just curious on the roads that were done by chinese 20 years ago.name them please and for your info ss mehta is the one who tarmacked the current tom mboya street in 1957

@mawinder. In 1957,mzungu was around. SS Mehta and Crescent are a disgrace to road builders. Their roads built in Kenya huru don't last.
Foundation and thickness of the tarmac is everything in road building.
Them, they just scratch the surface, put an inch or two [utmost] of tarmac on top and they pocket their paycheck.
Drainage can sort itself.
The curb is as low as they get.
Compare the thickness of SS Mehta/Crescent tarmac and that of Chinese contractors.
Our local road contractors are just greedy.
Plain and simple. The noises about technology and all that is nothing but smoke screen.
Good foundation.
Thick tarmac.
Effective drainage.
10 inch curb.
What's so hard about that? Easy money?
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jaggernaut
#19 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:00:00 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
They repaired our road kwa estate before the recent rains and then they came back 2 weeks ago and promptly filled all potholes that were caused by the heavy rains.

And this is something to celebrate why?

I have seen Kenyan roads built by the Chinese that are 20 years old and have never got a single pothole!!! Or it doesn't rain on Chinese built roads???

On the other hand, SS Mehta recarpets Waiyaki way [same sections] every year!!! sometimes twice a year! Every time a drive by and find their tracks, I feel like smashing someone's head!!! Is this my money being wasted like this? Didn't we just pay these fellows last year - and the one before that - and the one before that - to do the same job??? ABK!!!

I'm not celebrating!!!

I think I wasn't very clear and was thus misunderstood. It's not like they recarpeted the road and then it fell apart after a few weeks. What happened is that before the rains they patched up the potholes and worked on the drainage. As I said earlier the road is old and some parts which were intact and appeared ok before the rains developed potholes during the rains and these are the bits they recently came back to repair. And this is a commendable job since the road had been neglected for so long.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:22:12 PM
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@jaggernaut,
How long do you expect the repair job to last?
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