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Squabbling in Ojode family
Elder
#21 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:23:51 PM
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alma wrote:
I stand corrected, but this Ojode family is the reason why certain traditions should be banned for the sake of the nation.

We can't continue talking about wife inheritance in this day. Neither can we start talking of people who are supposed to be men forcing a widow to give them some money.

Even if that kid is not his, so what? Kama the family had issues with the widow kutoka kitambo, waseme. But hiding behind fake traditions is silly and to be honest, childish.


Let me coLLect you @alma. Where do you get the information that someone wants to inherit the widow?

So far the information we have is that the brothers to the late Ojode do not want any payments made to anybody until his estate is settled. The Luos have a documented history of unfairly taking virtually everything from the widow on the death of their 'brothers' but that should not be used to pre-judge this case. Maybe that is where this is heading but so far we have no facts to support that position.

For your information the law is very clear on who the dependants are. It might not appeal to you but it does not really matter whether you are a grown up brother or not. The law says that if you are a dependant you are entitled to be a beneficiary. Now once probate is concluded the court may award you a nominal amount like say Kshs. 1 but you have a legal right to claim to the estate.

Law of Succession Act Section 29 wrote:
For the purposes of this Part, "dependant" means -
(a) the wife or wives, or former wife or wives, and the children of the deceased whether or not maintained by the deceased immediately prior to his death;

(b) such of the deceased's parents, step-parents, grand-parents, grandchildren, step-children, children whom the deceased had taken into his family as his own, brothers and sisters, and half-brothers and half-sisters, as were being maintained by the deceased immediately prior to his death; and

(c) where the deceased was a woman, her husband if he was being maintained by her immediately prior to the date of her death.


Try and differentiate between money belonging to the estate of Ojode and money belonging to the widow (the latter under which the insurance money might fall).

Now right now we do not know what is going on among the beneficiaries. Maybe the widow is cutting off everybody else. The mother, the brothers (if at all they were dependants), children born out of wedlock and or other wives. Maybe it is the other dependants making life hard for the widow.

My reading of the letter is that it is asking for probate before any of the late Ojode's assets are paid out.

FYI the issue of debts, mortgages etc are to be sorted out in the probate and the more reason why no payments out to be made out of the estate of Ojode until then.

As stated about the insurance payment may actually not belong to the estate to but to a designated individual (the widow) and if the terms of the policy are clear on that then the letter is misplaced.
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Elder
#22 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:26:26 PM
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He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
Magigi
#23 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2012 5:36:19 PM
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Parlaiment to apply law to decide Ojodeh's estate

http://www.standardmedia...ecide-Ojodeh%27s-estate

The speaker should not be flashing these cheques around like this. This may give jilted wives of MPs ideas...
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:06:26 PM
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Magigi wrote:
Parlaiment to apply law to decide Ojodeh's estate

http://www.standardmedia...ecide-Ojodeh%27s-estate

The speaker should not be flashing these cheques around like this. This may give jilted wives of MPs ideas...

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#25 Posted : Wednesday, July 04, 2012 11:28:20 AM
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im just wondering.. do this fellows who are learned, just decide to leave no will behind?

Me thinks the marriages are never great, so they let things hang.. Shauri yao! but more so Shauri ya 'immediate beneficiary'
butterflyke
#26 Posted : Wednesday, July 04, 2012 6:21:48 PM
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B.Timer wrote:
Mama Ojode deserves upkeep and care from the late Ojode’s household - that is not in debate!

We can estimate her monthly budgetary requirements to be around 50K or thereabouts given that she resides in the Countryside - barring emergencies and incidental costs such as medical bills etc.
Assuming this to be the case the kitty for her upkeep would need to be contributed to by all her Children shared equitably.

Taking it that she has 5 Children, the late Ojode’s wife obligation would be to avail Ksh 15K Monthly or thereabouts.

She may choose to give more (expected but not mandatory), though this is depended on various factors, not least how she is treated by her in-laws.

Mama Ojode should be advised not to let her other Children mislead her into antagonisng her departed Sons Wife along with Andy, her Grandson!

However, just as she deserves upkeep from Ojodes household, so does she have certain obligations towards them, chief among them recognition and not directing hostilities their way.

Wazuans both Male and Female; - How would you like your matter to be handled if, God forbid, you were to find yourself in Ojode’s situation!


Ojode's situation? Ojode is dead......not much can be done about that.
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smano
#27 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:56:38 PM
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Elder wrote:


Let me coLLect you @alma. Where do you get the information that someone wants to inherit the widow?

So far the information we have is that the brothers to the late Ojode do not want any payments made to anybody until his estate is settled. The Luos have a documented history of unfairly taking virtually everything from the widow on the death of their 'brothers' but that should not be used to pre-judge this case. Maybe that is where this is heading but so far we have no facts to support that position.

For your information the law is very clear on who the dependants are. It might not appeal to you but it does not really matter whether you are a grown up brother or not. The law says that if you are a dependant you are entitled to be a beneficiary. Now once probate is concluded the court may award you a nominal amount like say Kshs. 1 but you have a legal right to claim to the estate.

Law of Succession Act Section 29 wrote:
For the purposes of this Part, "dependant" means -
(a) the wife or wives, or former wife or wives, and the children of the deceased whether or not maintained by the deceased immediately prior to his death;

(b) such of the deceased's parents, step-parents, grand-parents, grandchildren, step-children, children whom the deceased had taken into his family as his own, brothers and sisters, and half-brothers and half-sisters, as were being maintained by the deceased immediately prior to his death; and

(c) where the deceased was a woman, her husband if he was being maintained by her immediately prior to the date of her death.


Try and differentiate between money belonging to the estate of Ojode and money belonging to the widow (the latter under which the insurance money might fall).

Now right now we do not know what is going on among the beneficiaries. Maybe the widow is cutting off everybody else. The mother, the brothers (if at all they were dependants), children born out of wedlock and or other wives. Maybe it is the other dependants making life hard for the widow.

My reading of the letter is that it is asking for probate before any of the late Ojode's assets are paid out.

FYI the issue of debts, mortgages etc are to be sorted out in the probate and the more reason why no payments out to be made out of the estate of Ojode until then.

As stated about the insurance payment may actually not belong to the estate to but to a designated individual (the widow) and if the terms of the policy are clear on that then the letter is misplaced.


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#28 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2012 8:04:41 AM
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I haven't read all the posts in this thread; but I was wondering how Speaker Marende can obey instructions from a "stranger". How sure is Marende that the guy claiming to be Ojode's brother is actually the brother? He could be just another con-man! Would Marende also obey if I, Chiaroscuro, wrote to tell him that I am also a dependent of Ojode and Saitoti?

I thought all insurance policies are very clear on who the named beneficiary is. If this can be challenged with a simple letter, then why do we bother naming the beneficiaries?

If this guy is genuine, he shouldn't be writing to the Speaker. He should simply go to court and lay his claim. After all, isn't that where the matter of administration of Ojode's estate will be decided?
Robinhood
#29 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2012 8:20:00 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
I haven't read all the posts in this thread; but I was wondering how Speaker Marende can obey instructions from a "stranger". How sure is Marende that the guy claiming to be Ojode's brother is actually the brother? He could be just another con-man! Would Marende also obey if I, Chiaroscuro, wrote to tell him that I am also a dependent of Ojode and Saitoti?

I thought all insurance policies are very clear on who the named beneficiary is. If this can be challenged with a simple letter, then why do we bother naming the beneficiaries?

If this guy is genuine, he shouldn't be writing to the Speaker. He should simply go to court and lay his claim. After all, isn't that where the matter of administration of Ojode's estate will be decided?


Marende is obligated to receive any complaint from anyone. He however weighs each and makes a decision based on any evidence presented. I am sure this can only go one way... but expect the decision to be challenged in court.

Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
McReggae
#30 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2012 8:23:06 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
I haven't read all the posts in this thread; but I was wondering how Speaker Marende can obey instructions from a "stranger". How sure is Marende that the guy claiming to be Ojode's brother is actually the brother? He could be just another con-man! Would Marende also obey if I, Chiaroscuro, wrote to tell him that I am also a dependent of Ojode and Saitoti?

I thought all insurance policies are very clear on who the named beneficiary is. If this can be challenged with a simple letter, then why do we bother naming the beneficiaries?

If this guy is genuine, he shouldn't be writing to the Speaker. He should simply go to court and lay his claim. After all, isn't that where the matter of administration of Ojode's estate will be decided?


Read all the comments then, how do you expect to react to yours when you don't know what has already been discussed?????Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
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washiku
#31 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2012 4:20:31 PM
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Magigi wrote:
Parlaiment to apply law to decide Ojodeh's estate

http://www.standardmedia...ecide-Ojodeh%27s-estate

The speaker should not be flashing these cheques around like this. This may give jilted wives of MPs ideas...


VERY FUNNY....
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